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PostRe: ***Official Poker Thread*** HSP back on March 1st !!
by Drumstick » Sat May 30, 2009 11:39 pm

I was making a rather light comment about how I can grind for hours and simply come away down or even, fella. :P

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PostRe: ***Official Poker Thread*** HSP back on March 1st !!
by satriales » Sat May 30, 2009 11:44 pm

I know how you feel, that's what the story normally is for me. Today is probably a one-off.

Edit: The decline has now begun, I just got these both at the exact same time on the two tables I'm playing:
PokerStars Game #28804425329: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/05/30 23:42:05 WET [2009/05/30 18:42:05 ET]
Table 'Teucer V' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: satriales3 ($29 in chips)
Seat 2: shimhae ($6.65 in chips)
Seat 3: DrKirchoff ($5.85 in chips)
Seat 4: (PL)Raven ($10 in chips)
Seat 5: Bock Ness ($3.65 in chips)
Seat 6: porkeatsmatt ($10.50 in chips)
porkeatsmatt: posts small blind $0.05
satriales3: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to satriales3 [Qh Ah]
shimhae: calls $0.10
DrKirchoff: folds
(PL)Raven: folds
Bock Ness: folds
porkeatsmatt: folds
satriales3: raises $0.30 to $0.40
shimhae: calls $0.30
*** FLOP *** [8h Jh Qd]
satriales3: bets $0.50
shimhae: raises $2.50 to $3
satriales3: raises $2.50 to $5.50
shimhae: calls $2.50
*** TURN *** [8h Jh Qd] [Kd]
satriales3: bets $0.90
shimhae: calls $0.75 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($0.15) returned to satriales3
*** RIVER *** [8h Jh Qd Kd] [8s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
satriales3: shows [Qh Ah] (two pair, Queens and Eights)
shimhae: shows [Th As] (a straight, Ten to Ace)
shimhae collected $12.75 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13.35 | Rake $0.60
Board [8h Jh Qd Kd 8s]
Seat 1: satriales3 (big blind) showed [Qh Ah] and lost with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 2: shimhae showed [Th As] and won ($12.75) with a straight, Ten to Ace
Seat 3: DrKirchoff folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: (PL)Raven folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Bock Ness (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: porkeatsmatt (small blind) folded before Flop


PokerStars Game #28804428162: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/05/30 23:42:10 WET [2009/05/30 18:42:10 ET]
Table 'Reunerta II' 6-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: satriales3 ($7.30 in chips)
Seat 2: dab13n ($10.65 in chips)
Seat 3: 11111falco ($23.20 in chips)
Seat 4: PPPAAATTT ($5.15 in chips)
Seat 6: j1nxxy ($27.25 in chips)
j1nxxy: posts small blind $0.05
satriales3: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to satriales3 [Jc Js]
dab13n: folds
11111falco: calls $0.10
PPPAAATTT: folds
j1nxxy: folds
satriales3: raises $0.40 to $0.50
11111falco: calls $0.40
*** FLOP *** [Td 7c 8d]
lola4545 joins the table at seat #5
satriales3: bets $0.70
11111falco: calls $0.70
*** TURN *** [Td 7c 8d] [3c]
satriales3: bets $1.80
11111falco: raises $1.80 to $3.60
satriales3: raises $2.50 to $6.10 and is all-in
11111falco: calls $2.50
*** RIVER *** [Td 7c 8d 3c] [6d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
satriales3: shows [Jc Js] (a pair of Jacks)
11111falco: shows [9s Jh] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
11111falco collected $13.95 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $14.65 | Rake $0.70
Board [Td 7c 8d 3c 6d]
Seat 1: satriales3 (big blind) showed [Jc Js] and lost with a pair of Jacks
Seat 2: dab13n folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 11111falco showed [9s Jh] and won ($13.95) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 4: PPPAAATTT (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: j1nxxy (small blind) folded before Flop


Edit2: I ended up winning a bit more to make up for those two hands above. There was a guy who played every hand and was reraising with things like K9o, but somehow he kept winning and he had over $30. I waited ages for a decent hand and then I got QQ. He raised before me to about $1, I just shove my whole stack-in (about $14) and he insta-calls with A9o. My hand holds and I am doubled up :D

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PostRe: ***Official Poker Thread*** HSP back on March 1st !!
by Nova » Sun May 31, 2009 10:19 am

I'll stick a video up soon Rex, I just want to get my exams out of the way first.

I'm crushing 25$NL at the moment, but most of the money I made in the session just now was by being observant and making the right plays against the right people:

***** Hand History for Game 28818162385 *****
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, May 31, 09:51:07 ET 2009
Table Sicilia (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: lucky-D&D-24 ( $18.65 USD )
Seat 2: callmedk ( $28.30 USD )
Seat 3: lakers30240 ( $26.80 USD )
Seat 4: BlueBear ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 5: RichardNova ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 6: andreasm270 ( $13.75 USD )
lakers30240 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
BlueBear posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RichardNova [ Qh Ac ]
RichardNova raises [$1.00 USD]
andreasm270 folds
lucky-D&D-24 raises [$2.50 USD]
callmedk folds
lakers30240 folds
BlueBear folds
RichardNova calls [$1.50 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, Jd, 4c ]
RichardNova checks
lucky-D&D-24 checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
RichardNova checks
lucky-D&D-24 bets [$2.50 USD]
RichardNova raises [$7.00 USD]
lucky-D&D-24 calls [$4.50 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 6d ]
RichardNova bets [$8.00 USD]
lucky-D&D-24 folds
RichardNova wins $18.40 USD from main pot
RichardNova wins $8.00 USD from main pot


He was very loose, so I felt I could make the play here for someone who could well have been chasing a club flush. The difference between when I played at $10NL and now is that I didn't have the courage to fire the killer barrel on the end, whereas now I'm betting for value better and sniffing out bluffs on the end better
***** Hand History for Game 28818117430 *****
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, May 31, 09:48:03 ET 2009
Table Melpomene (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: BlueBear ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 2: CrazyHands05 ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 3: Reppy123 ( $25.45 USD )
Seat 4: RichardNova ( $37.15 USD )
Seat 5: SomnambulAA ( $24.85 USD )
Seat 6: aerrico26 ( $31.40 USD )
SomnambulAA posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
aerrico26 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
CrazyHands05 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RichardNova [ Js As ]
BlueBear folds
CrazyHands05 checks
Reppy123 calls [$0.25 USD]
RichardNova raises [$1.50 USD]
SomnambulAA folds
aerrico26 folds
CrazyHands05 folds
Reppy123 calls [$1.25 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, 9c, 3h ]
Reppy123 checks
RichardNova bets [$2.50 USD]
Reppy123 calls [$2.50 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ad ]
Reppy123 checks
RichardNova checks
** Dealing River ** [ 8s ]
Reppy123 bets [$6.25 USD]
RichardNova calls [$6.25 USD]
Reppy123 shows [4c, 4h ]
RichardNova shows [Js, As ]
RichardNova wins $20.10 USD from main pot


Was that an easy call? I spent ages stewing over the possibility of 9s full or something. He didn't seem all that loose (20% of hands, not hyper aggressive)


And how about this? I just went into disciplined mode here but I should have called, right? Both other players involved in this pot are loose, the guy who shoves had just lost a bluff to me.
***** Hand History for Game 28818367181 *****
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, May 31, 10:05:00 ET 2009
Table Tololo IV (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: whitebullion ( $30.65 USD )
Seat 2: JulianBane ( $22.95 USD )
Seat 3: Cryblack ( $18.50 USD )
Seat 4: juflo ( $8.45 USD )
Seat 5: RichardNova ( $41.40 USD )
Seat 6: jc8888 ( $24.70 USD )
RichardNova posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
jc8888 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RichardNova [ Ac Kh ]
whitebullion folds
JulianBane raises [$0.75 USD]
Cryblack folds
juflo calls [$0.75 USD]
RichardNova raises [$2.90 USD]
jc8888 folds
JulianBane calls [$2.25 USD]
juflo raises [$7.70 USD]
RichardNova folds
JulianBane calls [$5.45 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Ah, Qs ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4d ]
JulianBane shows [2c, 2h ]
juflo shows [5h, Ad ]
juflo wins $19.15 USD from main pot


I'm getting such good pot odds there that I have to call, right?

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PostRe: ***Official Poker Thread*** HSP back on March 1st !!
by Slayerx » Sun May 31, 2009 10:26 am

Nova wrote:I'll stick a video up soon Rex, I just want to get my exams out of the way first.

I'm crushing 25$NL at the moment, but most of the money I made in the session just now was by being observant and making the right plays against the right people:

***** Hand History for Game 28818162385 *****
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, May 31, 09:51:07 ET 2009
Table Sicilia (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: lucky-D&D-24 ( $18.65 USD )
Seat 2: callmedk ( $28.30 USD )
Seat 3: lakers30240 ( $26.80 USD )
Seat 4: BlueBear ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 5: RichardNova ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 6: andreasm270 ( $13.75 USD )
lakers30240 posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
BlueBear posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RichardNova [ Qh Ac ]
RichardNova raises [$1.00 USD]
andreasm270 folds
lucky-D&D-24 raises [$2.50 USD]
callmedk folds
lakers30240 folds
BlueBear folds
RichardNova calls [$1.50 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Td, Jd, 4c ]
RichardNova checks
lucky-D&D-24 checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ Tc ]
RichardNova checks
lucky-D&D-24 bets [$2.50 USD]
RichardNova raises [$7.00 USD]
lucky-D&D-24 calls [$4.50 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 6d ]
RichardNova bets [$8.00 USD]
lucky-D&D-24 folds
RichardNova wins $18.40 USD from main pot
RichardNova wins $8.00 USD from main pot


He was very loose, so I felt I could make the play here for someone who could well have been chasing a club flush. The difference between when I played at $10NL and now is that I didn't have the courage to fire the killer barrel on the end, whereas now I'm betting for value better and sniffing out bluffs on the end better
***** Hand History for Game 28818117430 *****
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, May 31, 09:48:03 ET 2009
Table Melpomene (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: BlueBear ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 2: CrazyHands05 ( $25.00 USD )
Seat 3: Reppy123 ( $25.45 USD )
Seat 4: RichardNova ( $37.15 USD )
Seat 5: SomnambulAA ( $24.85 USD )
Seat 6: aerrico26 ( $31.40 USD )
SomnambulAA posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
aerrico26 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
CrazyHands05 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RichardNova [ Js As ]
BlueBear folds
CrazyHands05 checks
Reppy123 calls [$0.25 USD]
RichardNova raises [$1.50 USD]
SomnambulAA folds
aerrico26 folds
CrazyHands05 folds
Reppy123 calls [$1.25 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3d, 9c, 3h ]
Reppy123 checks
RichardNova bets [$2.50 USD]
Reppy123 calls [$2.50 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ad ]
Reppy123 checks
RichardNova checks
** Dealing River ** [ 8s ]
Reppy123 bets [$6.25 USD]
RichardNova calls [$6.25 USD]
Reppy123 shows [4c, 4h ]
RichardNova shows [Js, As ]
RichardNova wins $20.10 USD from main pot


Was that an easy call? I spent ages stewing over the possibility of 9s full or something. He didn't seem all that loose (20% of hands, not hyper aggressive)


And how about this? I just went into disciplined mode here but I should have called, right? Both other players involved in this pot are loose, the guy who shoves had just lost a bluff to me.
***** Hand History for Game 28818367181 *****
$25.00 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Sunday, May 31, 10:05:00 ET 2009
Table Tololo IV (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: whitebullion ( $30.65 USD )
Seat 2: JulianBane ( $22.95 USD )
Seat 3: Cryblack ( $18.50 USD )
Seat 4: juflo ( $8.45 USD )
Seat 5: RichardNova ( $41.40 USD )
Seat 6: jc8888 ( $24.70 USD )
RichardNova posts small blind [$0.10 USD].
jc8888 posts big blind [$0.25 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to RichardNova [ Ac Kh ]
whitebullion folds
JulianBane raises [$0.75 USD]
Cryblack folds
juflo calls [$0.75 USD]
RichardNova raises [$2.90 USD]
jc8888 folds
JulianBane calls [$2.25 USD]
juflo raises [$7.70 USD]
RichardNova folds
JulianBane calls [$5.45 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Th, Ah, Qs ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4h ]
** Dealing River ** [ 4d ]
JulianBane shows [2c, 2h ]
juflo shows [5h, Ad ]
juflo wins $19.15 USD from main pot


I'm getting such good pot odds there that I have to call, right?



It's hard to say with two players you know your almost certailinly in a race with one if not two of the players that is ifJulianBane calls if you do.

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PostRe: ***Official Poker Thread*** HSP back on March 1st !!
by Slayerx » Sun May 31, 2009 10:32 am

Final game of the LPPL today so I must win :mrgreen:

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PostRe: ***Official Poker Thread*** HSP back on March 1st !!
by Rex McGee » Sun May 31, 2009 10:35 am

Nova where's this graph? Are you running massively +EV by any chance? :P

Nice graph sykes, tiny sample though eh? :D

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PostRe: ***Official Poker Thread*** HSP back on March 1st !!
by Nova » Sun May 31, 2009 10:41 am

Rex McGee wrote:Nova where's this graph? Are you running massively +EV by any chance? :P

Nice graph sykes, tiny sample though eh? :D



This is for this week, about 16 hours:

[img=http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5840/thisweek.th.jpg]

I was nicely +EV early in the week, but I'm only about $40 up from EV difference, and to be honest even that doesn't make too much sense. I get all the money in on the flop with top set, get called and win the hand and the EV is regularly like $5-9 less :|

Does it think I shouldn't have been able to get all the money in?

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PostRe: ***Official Poker Thread*** HSP back on March 1st !!
by Nova » Sun May 31, 2009 12:31 pm

And just like that, AK into AA, AK into KJ and KK into AA and I'm down $50 in an hour :lol:

Sat at just over 1k now, tough beatage right there.

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PostRe: ***Official Poker Thread*** HSP back on March 1st !!
by Rex McGee » Sun May 31, 2009 1:30 pm

Jebus video comments:

Can you please turn bet amounts on. It's somewhere in options. I find it hard to see how much other people are betting.

J4 hand then. I don't like betting the flop mainly because nobody else really folds at these stakes and I find it hard to carry on with the hand on most turn cards. You got a good one however. :P The idea is at these stakes everyone just calls calls calls and there will more than likely be a turn card bigger than a 4. You can expect both to call you. Same for turn. By the river the chance you you holding the best hand dramatically decreases. Essentially you wouldn't play this hand preflop, you were forced to so don't act like you meant to get involved here. I don't know if this is sound advice but I don't bet it anyway.

Turn bet needs to be bigger. They are calling all day. Two flush draws now. River bet is better.

Perhaps turn on show mucked hands or something? Can you do that? At least review the hand history to see what he had. You need to try and get into their head. Was he calling with overcards? Did he have an ace? Did he have a draw? You can then use this info in future.

EDIT apologies. Your next line was you have not multitabled before! Certainly when you get better you need to be reviewing hands as you play. You may never see these people again. Or review them after. Remember the hands and check what they had.

4:00 KJs. I coulds tell you had trouble with this hand preflop. You were going to raise right? To 10 cents? The guy made it 6 and you were confused. Due to the nature of these stakes raising only a little more means 1. The original raiser is never folding 2. Everyone else is probably gonna call too. Try to avoid min raising unless you have a big hand and you think it will work but generally the idea here is to try and isolate the guy who raised first by raising enough to make everyone else fold but him call. The fact is you should be raising to 10 cents if that guy folds due to the limper. So by raising to 10 now you have ignored the fact he even played the hand at all. If he limped you'd make it 12 right? He raised though. I think 16 is fine here. It will hopefully cause more people to fold and he will still call with crappy hands. Can you see how this is much better than playing a 4 handed monotone flop where you have top pair? HU I would be confident about my hand. But not 4 way! The fold is all good though. Like insta fold. Don't throw awway money. :D

QJs @ 7 mins. Bet more on the flop. A small bet isn't going to deter anyone and just shows your weakness IMO. Checking is probably better than betting half pot I feel. I think calling the raise is ok though once you made the bet since the other guy did too. When you make the flush one of them probs stacks off to you.

QJo @ 9 minutes. Guy limped on button. Make it 10 cents not 8. Might have just been a simple mistake though. :)

AKo @ 10 mins. DW about AK hand. I think you played it fine. I never fold river at these stakes. Betting turn is the only thing that might be dodgy but I think it's ok because he probably has high card most of the time? I dunno maybe I give these guys no credit. xD

17 minutes. You can do yourself a favour if you are finding it hard to multitable by acting early. You have 96s in the BB. You fold to a raise so hit check fold then change to the other table. It will check if no raise and fold to any raise.

JT hand @ 18/19 minutes if v bad but I think you know this. I know I say it and I know nobody listens but just don't limp. You allow twat face to your left to see a cheap flop with 74o or something and make trips. Raise or fold and at these stakes you can fold JT so easily. I don't like it really at all as a hand. Limping got you into so much trouble here. Not only that I think you overvalued your hand. You had two overcards, which aren't massive if we are fair and a draw which is a pretty weak one. Not only that potentially your straight would lose to a FH or flush which could also be made. I wouldn't bet, because you have nothing really good going on and I certainly would not call the guys raise. Then the river bet is a bit meh because the guy obviously has something and people at these stakes find it hard to fold a pair. Just fold preflop, and post flop for that matter!

26 mins. You mucked your hand at river. Turn on automuck, again going to save you time and help you play more tables.

27 mins. JTo in SB. Can you please just avoid playing this hand. It is not going to be profitable in the long run. You are really only prepared to call and not raise which is bad. In the SB you should be playing almost as tight as UTG tbh so JT is just and easy fold. I also don't like this "finding out where you are" idea. It's fairly pointless. From betting you find out that they might or might not have a hand. The guys here are not predictable in the sense of their hands, they could have anything with any play.

28 mins. 88 hand. You are OOP so you should think about raising or folding. By calling here in the long run you are losing so much money. You check fold most flops right? Only carrying on if you make a set or the board is < 8 in which case you can easily be behind anyway. This is possibly the biggest leak in people's play I have seen so far. Even if you don't do it everytime try and remember, if you will be OOP post flop, you rarely want to be calling into a raise. It give him so so much power post flop since you check fold like 80%+. If you raise though he may fold and you take it pre OR he calls, you cbet 80% of flop and win when he folds. OR he shoves and you make an easy fold which is fine. This is still a better long run strategy. Also checking flop wasn't terrible by any means but I'd just bet it anyway. If you think he has a strong hand, a K is in his range lots perhaps then he will be calling. He probably calls TT+ as well. Actually he probably calls loads of things worse than that. Due to how bad people are I would always value bet my strong hands because they will almost always look you up anyway. Attempting to slow play doens't really work so much at these stakes when people often have air and just check along behind you.

35 mins. AQ hand, bet more on turn. Stop doing this half pot stuff. You are giving people odds to call. Keep it strong and they will probably call anyway so maximise your profit. Also in this hand at the river you didn't seem to know what the guys move meant. Certainly he can have air some of the time but to me it looks like a made draw and I would say he has a flush over 50% of the time here due to him just calling. I think you can fold though. Obviously I say this knowing the outcome of the hand but try not to get attached to hands. You do have top top which is lovely but consider how much you have invested in the pot. Folding is a good poker play, believe it or not. Dw too much about it though, the guy was a retard!

38 mins. Limping 44. Obv limping is a terrible play but I will let you off at these stakes. You folded 22 earlier as well. When you play $10NL I think you should start raising these hands to avoid getting multiway pots.

AT hand @ 39 mins. You said it was very bad. IMO it was fine lol. You had top pair and a draw @ Tc. Sure he had it but he doesn't always. I liked it tbh lol.

QJ @ 40 mins. I find it hard to cbet turn let alone bang the river. You have Q high. In reality these guys are not folding to most bets if they even have a pair. As I said just a minute ago folding is a good play and these guys are not good. If you do that to me, I might fold an ok hand. This guy however, never folding and you beat nothing he calls with. Try and realise when you are definitely beat and just give up. There is no shame in check folding and basically admitting you were cbetting. I think you like to "take a swing" at rivers a bit too much as you put it. Just play uber tight, value bet your big hands, don't give free money away at showdown with high card and your winrate will improve hiopefully! :D

AJ @ 43 mins. Many limpers. You asked what you should have done. I liked what you said "no pissing about" but you didn't raise anywhere near enough. Let's look at the maths again. One guy limps. One min raises and another two call. Imagine they all limped for a second. What is the correct raise? 16 cents. They didn't limp though, they put even more dead moeny in so put in EVEN MORE. I'd make this 20 and say "look, I don't strawberry float about, I have a good hand, if you call me expect some strawberry floating flop action". That isn't pissing about. You seemed surprised at getting 3 callers but the reason was you raised less than you would have they limped. Don't be afraid to get lots of money in preflop. You have a good hand and postflop they are so so much worse than you! It's good that you are being aggressive but not aggressive enough. IMO at turn hand is over. Just check fold. See how much easier it would be if you made a big raise earlier on. Then some monkey doens't come in with Q7 and you pay him off with A high. And stop betting half pot. It just shows weakness. 2/3+

You need to turn auto top up on, it's a feature in options somewhere. You need to make sure you are full stacked where possible.

I also think you should have ended the session here. After the AJ hand. You had been playing for like 45 minutes which is plenty of time but the game is getting to you. Take a break and don't let it affect your play. Not playing is sometimes a great poker decision.

50 mins, 89 in SB. I put your calling down to tilt. Remember SB is like UTG. Position is everything! I think you know you played this hand badly. The worst thing was betting the river. There is no way you have the best hand. This is why you need to fold the SB. You flop second pair and it goes downhill from there.

At the end you are annoyed and said you might not put the video up but putting it up is probably the best decision you made all session. I strongly believe you can beat these stakes. The only thing that can slow you down or possibly stop you though is tilt management. It's a hard thing I know, I've had to deal with so much gooseberry fool but you were playing badly. That isn't intended to sound harsh at all mind. You made bad decisions based on what you know but hopefully with practise and seeking advice you can improve your game. I did see some good things though and you have already picked up lots of the basic skills that nobody at your tables are seeming to do. They are all standard limp call, check call donkeys who shove when they have the nuts. If you take anything away from the session then.

1. Be more confident in your raising preflop. Limping is BAD. Raising small is BAD. Raise lots when you have good hands and fold JT! Be more selective and play them hard.

2. Try to avoid playing hands OOP, or calling OOP, especially in the SB. This created lots of problems for you.

3. Try to understand when you are not going to win the hand before you bet the river. Give us when you have a weak showdown hand.

I enjoyed watching the video though and I hope you make more. Be seeing you at $10NL soon. :) Best of luck at the tables. (Apologies if it seems I am being really mean, I know how annoying it is when people better than you telling you NO THIS IS WRONG etc. I really am just trying to help though.)

I'm going to record a session now. Remember people, there are loads of donks with money on sundays!


@ Nova.

I read a hand this morning but forgot to say. Make your 3bets AT LEAST 3 times the raise. You went from 1.00 to 2.90 or something. Just a minor thing I remember. Most people do 3.5.

Uh first hand seems pretty risky to me, especially now you have mentioned triple barrelling A high. In the short run it's ok sometimes but in the long run trust me when I saw you will lose money. Can you post a graph with EV and showdown and non showdown winnings for ALL your hands? I am guessing you are making money from the blue line more than the red? The red may even be negative or at least very small? Don't play too risky nonshowdown. You need to know A LOT of info to vbet A high at the river. If you think you knew what he was doing then fine but I dislike the play myself.

AJ hand you played good IMO. No raising the river but call is k.

AK hand. You need to try use stats/reads here to decide their ranges. The one you are concerned about is the raiser, not so much the caller, in most situations anyway. You are in the SB though so calling isn't going to be too good since you check fold flops without an Ace or King. 4 betting is much cooler, you can then pick up money pre, isolate the raiser most likely and cbet most flops to win. POSITION POSITION POSITION!!!

Glad to see you are doing well though. Graph is nice and upwards. Just don't get too carried away. When I started playing poker I thought I was the nizzles. I beat £20NL (note pounds) easily first go and started playing £50NL once my roll was enough. I got a kick in the arse though when I got HEM and realised I had been running quite a bit above EV and probably should have been breakeven over my last 20k hands. Right now I am quite happy playing $20NL.

Also I don't think you get EV totally. If you get it in and are not 100% favourite then the other person has SOME EV in the pot still, granted it might be small but they have some EV so you won't win say 10% of then time. This means if you do win the hand, whilst being favourite, you were lucky in the sense you still won because there was still a chance you wouldn't. As a consequence you gain some EV. You do this 10 times though and lose one and you will be neutral EV because all those 10% EV packages you gained will be wiped out when you lose the 10th time? Get it?

Best of luck playing. I might be in tonight, depends what we do. Cash game IMO. :P

GL slayer!

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PostRe: ***Official Poker Thread*** HSP back on March 1st !!
by Slayerx » Sun May 31, 2009 1:30 pm

I won't be around for tonights poker i'm afraid LPPL game followed by a PL tourney with a chance to win £200 + 8-)

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PostRe: ***Official Poker Thread*** HSP back on March 1st !!
by Drumstick » Sun May 31, 2009 2:08 pm

I'll be glad when my bonus is cleared. Fed up of just running gooseberry fool.

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PostRe: ***Official Poker Thread*** HSP back on March 1st !!
by satriales » Sun May 31, 2009 2:13 pm

I can't play tonight, I've got an exam tomorrow and I need to cram as much revision in as I can.

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by Psychic » Sun May 31, 2009 3:22 pm

PokerStars Game #28824328202: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10) - 2009/05/31 15:05:53 WET [2009/05/31 10:05:53 ET]
Table 'Padua' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Mixtress76 ($11.25 in chips)
Seat 2: tegro76 ($19.45 in chips)
Seat 3: 4sterix1976 ($14.20 in chips)
Seat 4: PsychicSykes ($23.55 in chips)
Seat 5: Thiesao58 ($10.25 in chips)
Seat 6: Schmidtson88 ($11.10 in chips)
PsychicSykes: posts small blind $0.05
Thiesao58: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to PsychicSykes [Ad Ah]
Schmidtson88: raises $0.30 to $0.40
Mixtress76: calls $0.40
tegro76: folds
4sterix1976: folds
PsychicSykes: raises $1.60 to $2
Thiesao58: folds
Schmidtson88: raises $9.10 to $11.10 and is all-in
Mixtress76 said, "omg lol"
Mixtress76: raises $0.15 to $11.25 and is all-in
PsychicSykes: calls $9.25
*** FLOP *** [9s 2h 8h]
Schmidtson88 said, "sick"
*** TURN *** [9s 2h 8h] [Td]
*** RIVER *** [9s 2h 8h Td] [Kd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
PsychicSykes: shows [Ad Ah] (a pair of Aces)
Mixtress76: shows [Kc Ks] (three of a kind, Kings)
Mixtress76 collected $0.30 from side pot
Schmidtson88: mucks hand
Mixtress76 collected $31.75 from main pot
Schmidtson88 said, "lool"
Mixtress76 said, "nice lol"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $33.70 Main pot $31.75. Side pot $0.30. | Rake $1.65
Board [9s 2h 8h Td Kd]
Seat 1: Mixtress76 showed [Kc Ks] and won ($32.05) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 2: tegro76 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 4sterix1976 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: PsychicSykes (small blind) showed [Ad Ah] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 5: Thiesao58 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Schmidtson88 mucked [Qd Qh]


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PostRe: ***Official Poker Thread*** HSP back on March 1st !!
by Drumstick » Sun May 31, 2009 3:24 pm

:(

It's been one of those days. Any time I picked up a nice hand like AK, the flop would come something like nine high, I'd bet out only to be massively raised. Any time I tried to c-bet anything my opponents had the nuts or close to it. Without getting involved in any major hands today I've managed to lose two buy ins just from constantly running into people with hands and people out flopping me, often with what were inferior hands.

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PostRe: ***Official Poker Thread*** HSP back on March 1st !!
by Rex McGee » Sun May 31, 2009 5:12 pm

Drumstick wrote::(

It's been one of those days. Any time I picked up a nice hand like AK, the flop would come something like nine high, I'd bet out only to be massively raised. Any time I tried to c-bet anything my opponents had the nuts or close to it. Without getting involved in any major hands today I've managed to lose two buy ins just from constantly running into people with hands and people out flopping me, often with what were inferior hands.


Make a video. :)

I'm gonna play some more now.

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PostRe: ***Official Poker Thread*** HSP back on March 1st !!
by Drumstick » Sun May 31, 2009 5:26 pm

I can make a half hour video but I'm not really wanting to play anymore today. All it would serve to show is what I typed above.

Looking forward to your video, mind.

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by Nova » Sun May 31, 2009 5:40 pm

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There you go Rex. Yeah, I'll go steady, I know how easy it is to get carried away.

I won a 4.40$ a minute ago though, which sticks my roll above 1.2k :D

EDIT: I look forward to watching the video Rex! Downloading now.

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PostRe: ***Official Poker Thread*** HSP back on March 1st !!
by Rex McGee » Sun May 31, 2009 5:50 pm

Was that a 180 man?!?! You are so sick dude!

Yeah I thought you would probs be a showdown winner. I don't get carried away with triple and double barrels too often and I make effective use of 3betting OOP so I have positive non showdown winnings but it's all cool.

Very nice graph shape though. Keep running good and enjoy it whilst it lasts! :P

What sort of roll are you looking to start $50NL with?

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PostRe: ***Official Poker Thread*** HSP back on March 1st !!
by Nova » Sun May 31, 2009 5:54 pm

Rex McGee wrote:Was that a 180 man?!?! You are so sick dude!

Yeah I thought you would probs be a showdown winner. I don't get carried away with triple and double barrels too often and I make effective use of 3betting OOP so I have positive non showdown winnings but it's all cool.

Very nice graph shape though. Keep running good and enjoy it whilst it lasts! :P

What sort of roll are you looking to start $50NL with?


Yep! Played very well too if I say so myself.

Erm, at the moment, I'm not fussed. I'm playing quite well at 25NL, but I suppose I wouldn't attempt 50 until 1800 or so. Does that sound good?

Yeah I need to 3Bet more OOP, I'll definitely look to use it at 50$ more regularly.

I'm looking to be rolled well enough to be able to use half a weeks earnings paying for food and nights out and half to build my roll, which I think is reasonable considering (to an extent), recent trends.

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