Watchmen - Offical Thread - USE SPOILER TAGS!

[Fruits Punch Samurai]

Play.com sent me the motion comic today! Think I will watch a chapter a day (it's like 5 hours long overall!). Its going to be strange listening to different voices from the film and probably nowhere near as good but I think watching this will remind me of scene changes and the like.

[Hexx]

http://motionographer.com/theater/yuco- ... en-titles/

The title scenes. Possibly my favourite bit of the film...

(No real spoilers. Except you'll see in 3 min into the film)

[Godzilla]

[Dolph Wiggler]

http://motionographer.com/theater/yuco-the-watchmen-titles/

The title scenes. Possibly my favourite bit of the film...

(No real spoilers. Except you'll see in 3 min into the film)

Whatever about the rest of the film, it has the best opening credits out of any film i've seen full stop.

[Madness]

Just seen this. Very good. I particularly liked Joe Swash as Nite Owl.

[Skarjo]

Yea, a solid 7/10 from me. Quite brave given that it makes absolutely no attempt whatsoever to tone down the content or narrative structure to appeal (or even give a little clarity to) people who haven't read the comic. The ending, although not strictly faithful to the book, does at least conserve the aim and ethos. If anything, the changes make more sense contextually and could be argued to be a more solid and satisfying conclusion. Overall, I would say, the best anyone could have hoped for.

But yes, the opening titles are by far the greatest thing in it, aside from;

Veidt giving his 'Don't foget Gentlemen, I could buy you three times over' speech to the captains of industry while a Muzak (sp?) version of Tears for Fears' 'Everybody Wants to Rule the World' plays in the background.

[Alvin Flummux]

http://motionographer.com/theater/yuco-the-watchmen-titles/

The title scenes. Possibly my favourite bit of the film...

(No real spoilers. Except you'll see in 3 min into the film)

Best title screens in film history? I think so! I'm seriously considering popping into Leeds to see this if it doesn't come on in my local theatres, it looks fantuish.

[Tafdolphin]

Just back from this. A clear 8.5 or 9/10.

Liked:

Rorschach and Nite Owl: Both performers absolutely nailed their characters. Dan Dreiburg came across as exactly the confused and frustrated man he was written as, a hero who became a nobody who became a hero. Rorschach was just as wonderfully twisted and single-minded as ever. The voice, the appearance, the movement...just perfect.

Dr Manhattan: Although not quite as pitch perfect as the above two, the good doctor still faired very well in translation. The detachment was there, the indifference was there, the arrogance was there. The CG didn't look half as bad as I thought it would and the cock shots weren't quite as gratuitous as I'd been led to believe. The creation of Dr Manhattan sequence was one of the highlights of the movie where everything; the art, the sound, the performances, just fell into place.

Alan Moore: For the first time, an adaptation of a Moore graphic novel actually felt like a Moore graphic novel. Even though he was probably sitting around his house moaning to his relatives as filiming was taking place, the final product felt like he'd been on set everyday, supervising. To hear his dialogue in its uneditted, uncencored form was a joy. The inclusion of some extremely subtle favourites of mine ("I was misquoted, I didn't say Superman, I said God is real...") and seeing some moments I thought untranslatable (Laurie's "How did things get so tangled?" over Jon 'tangling' his tie) was brilliant too.

Didn't like:

The ending: It didn't work for me, and not for the reasons I thought I'd dislike it. One of the things the novel did well was give you a sense of gravity; to shock you with the levels Ozzy went to to ensure world peace. The start of that final issue, pages and pages of bloody corpses, most of which had back stories, really hit home hard. In the film, the destruction of New York was far too kinetic; it concentrated on the fancy blast rather than the immediate consequences. Veidt's motives got rather lost too. Rather than a big reveal, it was drip fed to the audience which both lessened the impact and made for a sloppily paced end chapter.

The Fight Scenes: Two in particular, namely the Comedian fight and the prison break. The start of the film would have worked much better had they cut all the scrapping and jumped straight in with the "through the window" shot. The fight added nothing to the film and wasted valuable on-screen time. The prison break was good, but Snyder's slo-mo fetish was incredibly prevalent, making the scene look like something from a much lesser movie.

The Love Scene: Easily the worst bit of the film. How did they sit in the edit suite and think "Yep, that's fine." The whole cinema was laughing pretty much the whole way through it, and I don't blame them: it was comical. What were they even going for? Passion? Romance? It just came across as cheap and smutty, not to mention funny.

Overall, one of the best films I've seen in ages and about as good an adaption as we could have hoped for.

[Lee]

Did anyone else notice the "S.Q.U.I.D." branding on the terminal towards the end?

[Fruits Punch Samurai]

Watched the first chapter of the motion comic and it is quite good. Interesting that I imagine the scenes in the film as I watch it and the bits changed and missing I notice straight off. It is prety decent but I think it is all voiced by one guy, Sil Spectre is most definately a man talking!

[chalkitdown]

Saw this tonight. Absolutely loved it. One thing I absolutely cannot understand is how this only managed a 16 rating here in Ireland.

Brutal and bloody violence - check
Lot's of swearing - check
Dismemberment - check
Full frontal nudity of both the male & female variety - check

How on earth did they get away with it?


It's an 18 in the UK isn't it?

[Roonmastor]

Just got back from seeing it. It was amazing!

I'm not a Watchmen fan (or wasn't) and I haven't read the graphic novel (although I'd very much like someone to 'hook' me up) but I thought it was a brilliant film. I went into it knowing next to nothing. I'd only seen the trailers and caught the Radio 1 review by chance but it was enough to tell me that this wasn't a typical Superhero flick and to expect something different. I'm glad it did because the action was thin but considering the story didn't require much action there was enough to cover the action audience. Just.

Whilst I and my two male mates loved it, the two girls thought it was a bit crap. Even with the blue penises. But I think both were expecting Spiderman.

[Irene Demova]

One thing I absolutely cannot understand is how this only managed a 16 rating here in Ireland.

Brutal and bloody violence - check
Lot's of swearing - check
Dismemberment - check
Full frontal nudity of both the male & female variety - check

How on earth did they get away with it?


It's an 18 in the UK isn't it?

Yes; I'm dreaming of flying over and watch it

[Jax]

I mentioned this in the Last Film... thread, but the usher at the cinema, he was dressed as Rorschach (didn't do the voice unfortunately ). This was on the day of release, i don't know if they normally do that sort of thing, most of the staff were dressed as some kind of superhero, but i thought it was a fairly good touch.

[chalkitdown]

One thing I absolutely cannot understand is how this only managed a 16 rating here in Ireland.

Brutal and bloody violence - check
Lot's of swearing - check
Dismemberment - check
Full frontal nudity of both the male & female variety - check

How on earth did they get away with it?


It's an 18 in the UK isn't it?

Yes; I'm dreaming of flying over and watch it

I was amazed when I saw it at the start. It said 16 and under it in very small writing, reduced from 18 upon appeal(or words to that effect).

[edit] Here we go.

[Roonmastor]

Also...*spoiler*

Was it me or did The Comedian try to get it on with his own daughter?

[Cuttooth]

I was amazed when I saw it at the start. It said 16 and under it in very small writing, reduced from 18 upon appeal(or words to that effect).

[edit] Here we go.

Isn't the Irish film board incredibly strict and often adds a rating to a lot of films? I remember going to see The Phantom Menace in Ireland where it was rated PG when in the UK it was only a U. Every DVD I have with an Irish rating tends to be an 18 too.

Anyway, can't wait to see this film after all the positive reviews.

[Jax]

I mentioned this in the Last Film... thread, but the usher at the cinema, he was dressed as Rorschach (didn't do the voice unfortunately ). This was on the day of release, i don't know if they normally do that sort of thing, most of the staff were dressed as some kind of superhero, but i thought it was a fairly good touch.

Im gonna Rorschach it up this Halloween (was going to do it last year but could get the right gooseberry fool) but now cause of the film it should be damn easy.

Same, my good man (if there are parties going on, that is, of course).

o/

[chalkitdown]

I was amazed when I saw it at the start. It said 16 and under it in very small writing, reduced from 18 upon appeal(or words to that effect).

[edit] Here we go.

Isn't the Irish film board incredibly strict and often adds a rating to a lot of films?

In the past, yes. From Dusk 'til Dawn was only cleared for release here in 2000 or something.

[Dolph Wiggler]

One thing I absolutely cannot understand is how this only managed a 16 rating here in Ireland.

Brutal and bloody violence - check
Lot's of swearing - check
Dismemberment - check
Full frontal nudity of both the male & female variety - check

How on earth did they get away with it?


It's an 18 in the UK isn't it?

Yes; I'm dreaming of flying over and watch it

I was amazed when I saw it at the start. It said 16 and under it in very small writing, reduced from 18 upon appeal(or words to that effect).

[edit] Here we go.

It was the first thing i said to my mate when it finished, how did it get a 16 rating. It's actually unbelievable. I mean apart from the extremely graphic violence i thought it'd be an 18's just for the full frontal nudity, a blue penis is still a penis!