The Star Trek Spoilers Thread

[Oh Teh Noes]

The only things I didn't like about it were the Spock/Uhura romance (What? Where did that come from?) and, to an extent, Simon Pegg's Scottish accent.

The rest I thought was aces.

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The only things I didn't like about it were the Spock/Uhura romance (What? Where did that come from?) and, to an extent, Simon Pegg's Scottish accent.

The rest I thought was aces.

Pegg's accent was a lot more Glaswegian than Doohan's, but I'm willing to let that slide ans few people outside of Scotland would notice.

[Oh Teh Noes]

It kept slipping into English, but it is difficult to do a Scottish accent and keep it up. I'm very proud of Pegg though. He's come so far.

[Hexx]

I'd actually rather like some criticism from someone who isn't Hexx as at least I could feel they would be giving the film a fair crack of the whip and not just pointing out every single little thing wrong and claiming that the films rubbish.

Where've I said it was rubbish?
It's not perfect and it's got it's flaws. 6/10.
For what it is, it's good, but it's not spectacular - or genre defying. It dilutes its core and because much more generic to appeal to a wider audience.

It's no where near the better reboots (Films or otherwise) out there, and is just a an hodge podge, which everyone seems to be loving, simply because it's not horrible.

PP said pretty much the same thing - and you've seemingly neglected the part where we both said he had structual problems due to being a reboot/altnate reality/new story hybrid.

You want "bigger things"? Oki doki.

- It was a checklist of characters, they all got exactly one moment to shine, and then disappeared back into the background (Bar Kirk/Spock/Uhura, and to a significantly lesser extent Bones).

- If you weren't familiar with the characters, you wouldn't care. It's that reliance on previous efforts that hampers the film. It wouldn't stand at all well on it's own merits/characters. It's the odd mix of homage/rehash that makes it so messy.

- Badly directed/edited. It's choppy, it never let's up, it's messy (especially "in space"/battle, most of which you'll already have seen in trailers). There's a few character moments (Spock/Mother, Kirk/SpockSnr, Spock/SpockSnr,) but otherwise it's all....fast.

- It's about 20minutes too long (Presumably while Nero stopped to ask for directions).

- It suffers the classic mistake of making the enemy SO powerful, that a "rabbit has to be pulled out of hat" at the end to beat then. In the case the Jellyfish/Red Matter. Which was odd because during the Vulcan attack the little ship was heavily guarded, with lots of people on board. This time there was no one around. Huh. Lucky.

- Perhapes someone could also explain how they formed a plan around the Jellyfish/Red Matter, without Kirk revealing his knowledge/where it came from? They beamed on board to take out the wepaons/do some damage, but then it all seemed to be planned. Which again, was pretty lucky. (I went to the loo during this bit, so maybe I missed something).

And the lesser;

- For a series whose science has always been pretty grounded, it just flew out the window in the case to allow specticle.

- If you're gonna be "in continuity" and rely on past movies/series - get it right. Either ignore it, or get it right. Don't half ass it. You just end up with things "non trekkies" won't get (so add nothing), and "serious trekkies" will get pissed off by. (e.g. Just how old is Admiral Archer's dog now anyway?)

Well so far, apart from Hexx, the film seems to be getting universal praise, even from non-trekkies.

Poor PP. Always forgotten and overlook again

And last time I looked at metacritc it was at 80%

[Peter Crisp]

It kept slipping into English, but it is difficult to do a Scottish accent and keep it up. I'm very proud of Pegg though. He's come so far.

His accent did go a bit all over the place but I still think he did a good job.

[Harry Bizzle]

The only things I didn't like about it were the Spock/Uhura romance (What? Where did that come from?)

It came from Uhura not really having any real role at all.

[Hexx]

I didn't like about it were the Spock/Uhura romance (What? Where did that come from?.

They needed a female love interest/sex icon to be flirty/involved with someone

It couldn't be Kirk - he was planned to meet/flirt with/seduce Dr Marcu, but she got cut.

And this way the quiet geeky gets the sexy girl.

So everyone's happy.

[Peter Crisp]

Hexx would it be possible to just agree you didn't enjoy it and move on as I'd like to hear from other people without you ripping into peoples opinion of why they enjoyed (or not) the film.

[Skippy]

Poor PP. Always forgotten and overlook again

I get used to it

[Peter Crisp]

I award the world's first Prequel/Sequel/Reboot the highest *** ever awarded to a film by me.

Hugely entertaining due to an amazing cast but the film on a whole seemed a bit messy, I'm not sure how to put it. Basing the story around making it a reboot was a great idea but it seemed like they strived for that too much. I can't put it into words, I guess I have to see it again

I didn't see this as a particularly negative review as PP said he enjoyed it but with some reservations which is fair enough.

[Hexx]

Hexx would it be possible to just agree you didn't enjoy it and move on as I'd like to hear from other people without you ripping into peoples opinion of why they enjoyed (or not) the film.

I would do, but people kept asking my to explain/prove/defend why I didn't like it.

They tried to rip my opinion to pieces PC

I didn't see this as a particularly negative review as PP said he enjoyed it but with some reservations which is fair enough.

I gave it the exact same score in my next post

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I award the world's first Prequel/Sequel/Reboot the highest *** ever awarded to a film by me.

Hugely entertaining due to an amazing cast but the film on a whole seemed a bit messy, I'm not sure how to put it. Basing the story around making it a reboot was a great idea but it seemed like they strived for that too much. I can't put it into words, I guess I have to see it again

I didn't see this as a particularly negative review as PP said he enjoyed it but with some reservations which is fair enough.

Seeing as he awarded it the highest *** ever, I'd say that was pretty good.

[Skippy]

Hexx would it be possible to just agree you didn't enjoy it and move on as I'd like to hear from other people without you ripping into peoples opinion of why they enjoyed (or not) the film.

I would do, but people kept asking my to explain/prove/defend why I didn't like it.

They tried to rip my opinion to pieces PC

I didn't see this as a particularly negative review as PP said he enjoyed it but with some reservations which is fair enough.

I gave it the exact same score in my next post

My extremely high *** would equate to a 7/10 which in turn would be *** 1/2

I DONT DO HALVES BITCH!

[Hexx]

My extremely high *** would equate to a 7/10 which in turn would be *** 1/2

I DONT DO HALVES BITCH!

If you don't do halves it's still 3/5 (or 6/10) not 7/10 - bitch.

BTW - The soundtrack (bar the credits, which while nice was totally out of place) is awesome.

And...um..."out there".



(Another "positive" - there's some lovelty shot in there. I thought the battles were all badly editting, too quickly cut shite. But some of the slow shots were I want a HQ desktop of out of the smoke....
Did anyone else's screen seem to be odd? The bit where the approached the Enterprise for the first time was odd. It looks like it hadn't been scaled right (the ship went off the edges of screen)

[Peter Crisp]

Hexx would it be possible to just agree you didn't enjoy it and move on as I'd like to hear from other people without you ripping into peoples opinion of why they enjoyed (or not) the film.

I would do, but people kept asking my to explain/prove/defend why I didn't like it.

They tried to rip my opinion to pieces PC

I didn't see this as a particularly negative review as PP said he enjoyed it but with some reservations which is fair enough.

I gave it the exact same score in my next post

No worries it's only a film after all even if I am a rabid fanboy at heart. I hope you know this is nothing personal but I just felt you were trying your hardest to find reasons to criticise but even if you are if I've been OTT in my responses then I apologise.
Sorry about that.

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So, to summarise - some people like the film. Other people really like the film.

[Vermin]

The only things I didn't like about it were the Spock/Uhura romance (What? Where did that come from?) and, to an extent, Simon Pegg's Scottish accent.

The rest I thought was aces.

Pegg's accent was a lot more Glaswegian than Doohan's, but I'm willing to let that slide ans few people outside of Scotland would notice.

Hmmm...nah. From what I've heard, it's actually more Lothian/Fife, but strangely with little dobs of north coast enunciation. I can see why you'd say Glaswegian, though, as he's got the raised inflection going on at some points, and it's usually only those dorty weegies that do that.

So yeah, quite the mongrel accent. As usual.

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Hmmm...nah. From what I've heard, it's actually more Lothian/Fife, but strangely with little dobs of north coast enunciation. I can see why you'd say Glaswegian, though, as he's got the raised inflection going on at some points, and it's usually only those dorty weegies that do that.

So yeah, quite the mongrel accent. As usual.

I'm only going from scottish people I've met. I'm no expert on the subject. And anyway, Doohan's accent was hardly definitive in itself. For all we know in 200 years the accents could well have merged.

[Hexx]

And Spock's Vulcan accent was [i]totally[i] from the Is-tah region, while everyone knows he's from Bo-Tah provence.

I don't think Sulu was Japanese either

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And Spock's Vulcan accent was [i]totally[i] from the Is-tah region, while everyone knows he's from Bo-Tah provence.

You n00b! He clearly spoke with a Ra-Tah dialect!