Terminator Salvation?

jamcc wrote:

tomvek wrote:

jamcc wrote:Gonna go see this tonight... After getting doobed.

Can't wait.

Hope you enjoy it dude.

Um, thanks.

I'm suspicious, as no one is ever that nice on here, without some kind of highly saracastic undertone..

*Backs away slowly*

tomvek wrote:

jamcc wrote:

tomvek wrote:

jamcc wrote:Gonna go see this tonight... After getting doobed.

Can't wait.

Hope you enjoy it dude.

Um, thanks.

I'm suspicious, as no one is ever that nice on here, without some kind of highly saracastic undertone..

*Backs away slowly*

No, I really hope you do. I went into it last night thinking it wasn't going to be any good but I actually enjoyed it quite a bit. I get really excited by big, new releases so I know how you feel and just hoping you enjoy it dude.

Sarge wrote:I thought it was terrible Skynet now has a voice, personality and feels the need to explain its actions to a grunt.

And for a supposedly advanced AI, it makes some very stupid mistakes.

Why not just kill Kyle as soon as they took him out of the processing line? why not send hundreds of HK's, harvesters, T-300 & 600s after Conner instead of one, unarmed T-800.

Skynet could have killed both & reset everything, instead it acts like a complete & utter twit & sends only one T-800/doesn't kill Reese as soon as it has him in the factory.

Ridiculous.

And that's not even taking into account the 20+ times that Marcus could have been activated & killed both Reese & Conner.

The editing was also pretty bad, same goes for the acting, the ending, pretty much everything about this movie was bad.

Very disappointing.

Tragic Magic wrote:So they did keep the heart transplant ending in the end? Is it really as dumb as it sounds because it sounds like they nuked the fridge just a bit.

F-Heonix wrote:

Tragic Magic wrote:So they did keep the heart transplant ending in the end? Is it really as dumb as it sounds because it sounds like they nuked the fridge just a bit.

Yep, tha's the ending. Trag, have you got a link to where the alternative ending is? I want to read it now and see what they had in mind

F-Heonix wrote:Pretty much in agreement with Sarge but saying that I still thought it was ok. The opening 10 mins were brilliant, the shot of John Connor in the helicopter was a sight to behold

Now for things I don't get

1) What was the point in Marcus? Literally had no impact on the story at all
2) Why, in the prison, were Terminators wearing rags on their heads?
3) Where was all Terminators? Was this a prison or Skynet? Because John Connor got into that place pretty easy
4) Why was Marcus allowed to roam Skynet at will?
5) Since John has Marcus's heart now, in the next film will John turn good and bad?

But over all of that it still was a huge step up from 3 which I hate with a passion. Next time, I hope we see a more consistent script

1) He was actually the whole point of the film It was his development that was the suprise to Connor, and he pretty much saved the day. Connor mentioned that it was something new and not what he expected thus he worried it was a change in the timeline. The whole plot centered on Skynet using Marcus to lure Connor, and his human side shinning through at the end

2) Not sure why inside but the idea was to disguise them from a distance as they looked crude (In T1 Kyle stated they had rubber skin)

3) Im guessing they didnt keep loads in the heart of the building except the production lines. Connor made mention that no human had ever gone that close to Sky net territory so im guessing they didnt feel it was insecure.

4) Skynets plan was to allow marcus back inside thats why they let him run free, plus he had a control chip in his brain.

5) I hope not although its the exact stupid thing writers would do.

Eyes of God wrote:

Kermode reckons it's dogshit.

FatDaz wrote:

F-Heonix wrote:Pretty much in agreement with Sarge but saying that I still thought it was ok. The opening 10 mins were brilliant, the shot of John Connor in the helicopter was a sight to behold

Now for things I don't get

1) What was the point in Marcus? Literally had no impact on the story at all
2) Why, in the prison, were Terminators wearing rags on their heads?
3) Where was all Terminators? Was this a prison or Skynet? Because John Connor got into that place pretty easy
4) Why was Marcus allowed to roam Skynet at will?
5) Since John has Marcus's heart now, in the next film will John turn good and bad?

But over all of that it still was a huge step up from 3 which I hate with a passion. Next time, I hope we see a more consistent script

Answers

1) He was actually the whole point of the film It was his development that was the suprise to Connor, and he pretty much saved the day. Connor mentioned that it was something new and not what he expected thus he worried it was a change in the timeline. The whole plot centered on Skynet using Marcus to lure Connor, and his human side shinning through at the end

2) Not sure why inside but the idea was to disguise them from a distance as they looked crude (In T1 Kyle stated they had rubber skin)

3) Im guessing they didnt keep loads in the heart of the building except the production lines. Connor made mention that no human had ever gone that close to Sky net territory so im guessing they didnt feel it was insecure.

4) Skynets plan was to allow marcus back inside thats why they let him run free, plus he had a control chip in his brain.

5) I hope not although its the exact stupid thing writers would do.

Sarge wrote:

FatDaz wrote:

F-Heonix wrote:Pretty much in agreement with Sarge but saying that I still thought it was ok. The opening 10 mins were brilliant, the shot of John Connor in the helicopter was a sight to behold

Now for things I don't get

1) What was the point in Marcus? Literally had no impact on the story at all
2) Why, in the prison, were Terminators wearing rags on their heads?
3) Where was all Terminators? Was this a prison or Skynet? Because John Connor got into that place pretty easy
4) Why was Marcus allowed to roam Skynet at will?
5) Since John has Marcus's heart now, in the next film will John turn good and bad?

But over all of that it still was a huge step up from 3 which I hate with a passion. Next time, I hope we see a more consistent script

Answers

1) He was actually the whole point of the film It was his development that was the suprise to Connor, and he pretty much saved the day. Connor mentioned that it was something new and not what he expected thus he worried it was a change in the timeline. The whole plot centered on Skynet using Marcus to lure Connor, and his human side shinning through at the end

2) Not sure why inside but the idea was to disguise them from a distance as they looked crude (In T1 Kyle stated they had rubber skin)

3) Im guessing they didnt keep loads in the heart of the building except the production lines. Connor made mention that no human had ever gone that close to Sky net territory so im guessing they didnt feel it was insecure.

4) Skynets plan was to allow marcus back inside thats why they let him run free, plus he had a control chip in his brain.

5) I hope not although its the exact stupid thing writers would do.

I really think they missed a fantastic story opportunity with Marcus. They could have made it that his development was a plan by the dying Doctor to create Terminators who were built solely to save/help humanity.

Just imagine an army of Terminators who think they're human.

Instead he was turned into another lame & wasted plot point.

Shame.

And those of you hoping that T5 will be better.

T5 is going to be so much worse than this if the rumours about the plot are true.