Red Riding

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by Drunken_Master » Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:40 pm

Cal wrote:As a writer, you could learn a thing or two


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PostRe: Red Riding
by Memento Mori » Fri Mar 06, 2009 5:34 pm

It was good but too predictable. I was guessing whole lines of dialogue before they happened.

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PostRe: Red Riding
by Johnny Ryall » Fri Mar 06, 2009 6:07 pm

Repeats?

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PostRe: Red Riding
by Alpha eX » Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:03 pm

A room of us watched it and we turned it off half way through, it was really boring and dull.

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by thousand yard stare » Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:21 pm

I thought it was a load of old pony. I liked it for the first hour, and it looked brilliant, great camera shots and stuff, but it turned from a sort of dramatised account of real life police corruption into a Hollywood blockbuster relocated to Barnsley. It just got sillier and sillier, towards the end it was like Hostel / Clockwork Orange meets Taxi Driver! He's a journalist, not Travis Bickle! Vengeful shoot-outs are fine in a Michael Bay flick, but wasn't this thing supposed to be rooted in reality?

Anyone read the David Peace novel? Just wondered how faithful the tv show was.

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PostRe: Red Riding
by Vermin » Fri Mar 13, 2009 3:57 pm

Second episode was pretty good. By 'eck, though, it were gwrim. Again.

Considine was OK, but seemed to be acting in the same vein as his character from Dead Man's Shoes. The best performance was by Tony Pitts (who played Nolan on Considine's team); made even better at the end of the episode for reasons obvious to those who saw it.

Cannae wait for next week's 1983.

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by thousand yard stare » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:41 pm

Yeah, I thought it was better right up to the end when it all went amazingly spacky ("kill everybody!"). The makers seem to be working under the assumption that if they make everything unremittingly bleak and dreary for most of the show, they can get away with any old nonsense for the ending. In this as in most things though, a lot of people probably disagree with me. And why not? I'm a right cantankerous twat!

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by Cal » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:42 pm

Gil-Martin wrote:Second episode was pretty good. By 'eck, though, it were gwrim. Again.

Considine was OK, but seemed to be acting in the same vein as his character from Dead Man's Shoes. The best performance was by Tony Pitts (who played Nolan on Considine's team); made even better at the end of the episode for reasons obvious to those who saw it.

Cannae wait for next week's 1983.


What he said. Plus, this entire trilogy has got BAFTAS writ large all over it. Good to see Channel 4 haven't completely forgotten they used to make pretty decent films back in the day...

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by Red » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:44 pm

Watched the first episode and loved it, got the second episode to watch online this evening.

By god, the Yorkshire accent is hot.

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by Vermin » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:57 pm

moi wrote:Yeah, I thought it was better right up to the end when it all went amazingly spacky ("kill everybody!"). The makers seem to be working under the assumption that if they make everything unremittingly bleak and dreary for most of the show, they can get away with any old nonsense for the ending. In this as in most things though, a lot of people probably disagree with me. And why not? I'm a right cantankerous twat!


I think that Tony Grisoni is just sticking with what David Pearce has created, though, rather than cynically applying a certain philosophy of story-telling to allow for - as you said - any old nonsense for the ending.

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by thousand yard stare » Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:15 pm

Yeah, I s'pose I can't fault the makers if they've just faithfully recreated what the writer came up with in the first place, and David Peace certainly seems like the Brit-Lit man of the hour. I didn't really see what all the fuss was about with Damned United (the only one by him I've read), but I s'pose the critics are concentrating on the stuff the guy gets right (like, I guess, period detail, atmosphere, story) rather than dwelling on stuff that nit-pickers like me might get annoyed about - I've always had a bee in my bonnet about supposedly realistic stuff actually seeming realistic.

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PostRe: Red Riding
by Memento Mori » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:15 pm

So the finale has been shown and it was good. Not entirely clear though.

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PostRe: Red Riding
by Nanook » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:59 pm

Well. I've watched all three - it must be said that the structure of each wasn't entirely clear. All the ingredients of art direction were there in force though - it really was brilliant in that respect. The acting was also excellent; David Morrissey in particular was outstanding, I thought, as was the fella who played Bob Craven (forget his name).

It really was hard to follow, though. I had to tell the missus to "shhhh" once or twice during it, which isn't a good thing. Overall though, I thought it was great, with only one character in the whole six hours I genuinely didn't want on screen (BJ or was it PJ?), and I can see how people wouldn't like it - I think it requires concentration because it just doesn't give enough of the story, if that makes sense - it was hard to tell what was a flashback and what wasn't, for instance.

As for the art direction I mentioned - it was ace how places, from the estates to the whole of West Yorkshire, were like actual characters. Same goes for how the West Yorkshire Police was characterised.


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