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Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:34 am
by Psychic
Nice. I'd heard their support was good, but damn. Get grinding the Sit and Go's, I've got nearly 70 FPP's already!
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 1:40 am
by Drumstick
I entered the 11pm Sunday Two Grand. It started with 2453 players and is now down to the last 216. I am lying in 104th. Nothing as epic as Satriales' win of course. Rex is letting me use his account as I didn't have enough FPPs.
I was actually gaining some momentum until I got moved to the chip leader's table. He has me dominated at a 9:1 chip lead, and seemingly every time I raise with AK/AQ etc it misses, and he's calling with anything and so when he bets one third of my stack I have to fold. Rather annoying really. Top prize is only $333 and it trickles down from there but I suppose it's cash and decent tournament practice. I'll keep this post updated.
It doesn't help that I'm pretty card dead at the moment.
01:54 - Was getting pretty low. Down to around 7k and picked up AT suited. A guy with around 4k pushed and I was last to act. Figured it was a flip so I called and won the hand, and I'm back up to 13k. I'm seriously card dead though. That was the first real hand I've picked up in about three rounds. 95/140.
01:59 - I just took a massive chance. A guy who has 7.6k put his stack in. I call with 44 and fortunately my pair holds up!
02:01 - It's all happening now. 27k in chips. AK on the button, a guy raises to 6k. I call preying to finally hit something on the flop. I hit a King. He bets out with 6k. I raise all in, he calls with QQ, my hand holds up. I'm now sitting on 56k. 17/107.
02:11 - I'm finally running good. I flat call with AQ. Flop comes AQ6 rainbow. I check, it is checked around. Ten on the turn. I bet 3,000 and the second guy raises, I re-raise all in and he shows KJ. This time it is I who hit the miracle card with an Ace on the river to give me a FH. 10/104.
We're now on a break.
02:31 - I stacked off almost half my chips when my flush draw missed. Almost back to where I was (71k) with 55k. It's also worth noting that this tournament has been running for almost four hours and I've not had Aces, Kings, Queens or Jacks.
02:54 - Up to 72k. 24/57.
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:00 am
by satriales
Good luck, where do you need to get to be in the money?
I'm really tempted to play some poker but I've got a big piece of programming coursework that needs to be finished and submitted tomorrow
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:10 am
by Drumstick
I just went out in 49th. I called with A3s and the flop came T88 with two spades. A guy bets 6k and then another guy pushes all in for 80k. At this point I have only 49k left and if I'm to make the final table I need to start taking some risks. Guy with 80k shows Q8 and I didn't hit my spade draw.
Oh, was in the money from 450-odd. But it doesn't shoot up much until the last five.
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:26 am
by satriales
Unlucky. At least you got a bit of cash though, there's nothing worse than playing for a few hours and leaving empty handed.
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:36 am
by Drumstick
satriales wrote:Unlucky. At least you got a bit of cash though, there's nothing worse than playing for a few hours and leaving empty handed.
Yeah, I guess. Outlasting over 2400 people does sort of feel like a mini accomplishment, and I think my all around game has massively improved from a year or so ago.
- My cash game whilst not the greatest I think I underrate a tad.
- Tourney play is pretty erratic but I've never had the chance to take place a serious one for proper cash but I've won a couple with fewer fields before this.
- SnG game is probably where I'm most confident. I feel I can beat them fairly consistently. However when hands don't hold up like on FT earlier there's really nothing you can do.
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 10:48 am
by Rex McGee
PsychicSykes wrote:Nice. I'd heard their support was good, but damn. Get grinding the Sit and Go's, I've got nearly 70 FPP's already!
Quicker via cash I think. I has like 2500 or something. What is your roll now?
Good work on the tournament Drum. I will send the cash tomorrow probably since I have poker tonight at uni. 6 max £5 freezeout. Should be good for me!
I don't have the HH for the hand PS but it went 150, 400, shove call.
My month so far is like only +$100 now. Lost a bit yesterday though I have almost cleared a $150 bonus. I have like £1119 + $524 + pending bonus. (Only like 20 FPP away now).
Also next Sunday or something we should all try and get in a small buyin tournament in the afternoon and rail eachother. See who can make it deep.
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:24 pm
by Psychic
Fair point, but it depends on which cash games Drummy's playing. I prefer to multi-table the SnG's as it's a little more formulaic, plus you don't have to hope you get involved in a big pot for the FPP's.
I honestly can't remember that hand as you describe it, but I don't have a great memory so I'll try and put my reasoning across. I believe I was on the button so raising 4's is fine, especially as I expect the blinds to fold a decent amount of the time. With you in the SB(?) raising, as I knew you were a good thinking player you were unlikely to be raising with complete trash, despite my aggressive image at that point. Only because I know you're a good player did I think you had a wider range than an average player would have. I think I had you pegged at something like 88+, ATs+, KTs, ATos, KTos. While this would probably make me a small underdog, I feel that with the dead money in the pot, the small chance you're making a bluff and the smallish amount of fold equity I had made it a +EV play.
Think of it as Jamie Gold being happy to get Allen Cunningham AI on a coinflip and you'll see my point.
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 4:51 pm
by Drumstick
PsychicSykes wrote:Fair point, but it depends on which cash games Drummy's playing. I prefer to multi-table the SnG's as it's a little more formulaic, plus you don't have to hope you get involved in a big pot for the FPP's.
$0.01/0.02.
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 5:44 pm
by Psychic
Drumstick wrote:PsychicSykes wrote:Fair point, but it depends on which cash games Drummy's playing. I prefer to multi-table the SnG's as it's a little more formulaic, plus you don't have to hope you get involved in a big pot for the FPP's.
$0.01/0.02.
Get in the Sit and Go's sharpish, I've been playing them almost exclusively and have 63 FPP's from less than a weeks play. Great bankroll builder too, tight as a rock until the blinds reach 50/100 or it's four handed, then get aggressive while everyone is scared of missing out on third place.
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:18 pm
by Nova
Running 86 from 684 players now in a 1$ tournament. Original number - 4590
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:18 pm
by Rex McGee
You had 33, not 44.
Pot was 150 blinds + your 150 raise. I make it 450 with about another 500-550 behind. I think you have about 3000-3500 chips. I just think it's a fold because your stack drops to 2k from 3k if you lose and I won't put in half my stack to fold a shove, so evidently my raise is to get all in regardless. I think you can fold and lose 150 but fair play, you won the hand I guess. +/- EV isn't what SnG are about either. Your tournament equity is far more important. If say you are 60% but yopur equity would stand to drop so low you would never be making the call. It's why you raise less as well in SnG. 3BB is like a tops preflop and it decreases as the tournament progress.
Played some cash at uni today between lectures. +$75.
Villain is 24/17/2.4 over 115 hands.
Was not expecting 97!!
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:40 pm
by Drumstick
Nova wrote:Running 86 from 684 players now in a 1$ tournament. Original number - 4590
Good luck! I'll be watching.
GJ on the cash, Tommy.
I'll probably be playing a few SnGs tonight.
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:45 pm
by Nova
Drumstick wrote:Nova wrote:Running 86 from 684 players now in a 1$ tournament. Original number - 4590
Good luck! I'll be watching.
I thought I had to push him, just to avoid the straight. Right move?
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:51 pm
by Drumstick
I think you could have probably milked him for a little more but killing off the pot and getting the chips isn't bad.
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:53 pm
by Nova
Drumstick wrote:I think you could have probably milked him for a little more but killing off the pot and getting the chips isn't bad.
Yeah. I just didn't want to have to split it. All he needed was a Jack or a ten and it could be close
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 6:56 pm
by Nova
Now short stacking. I went for the coin flip, sensing the shaky nature of the all in, but he hit a full house at the flop
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:30 pm
by Psychic
Rex McGee wrote:You had 33, not 44.
Pot was 150 blinds + your 150 raise. I make it 450 with about another 500-550 behind. I think you have about 3000-3500 chips. I just think it's a fold because your stack drops to 2k from 3k if you lose and I won't put in half my stack to fold a shove, so evidently my raise is to get all in regardless. I think you can fold and lose 150 but fair play, you won the hand I guess. +/- EV isn't what SnG are about either. Your tournament equity is far more important. If say you are 60% but yopur equity would stand to drop so low you would never be making the call. It's why you raise less as well in SnG. 3BB is like a tops preflop and it decreases as the tournament progress.
Pot is 700 (150 Blinds+150 Raise+400 3bet) and you have 550 behind. To put you AI will cost me 800 more for a shot at a 2050 pot. (700 pot+550 behind+800 cost) Flat calling is out of the question as you're going AI on any flop, while I'm getting extremely good odds. Assuming my maths isn't screwed up, I have the feeling it may be, with those odds, the only way I can fold is if I'm sure you have a higher pair than me.
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 7:33 pm
by Nova
In last 170 now, lagging a bit on 22k with the average at about 40, but still have about 15BB at the moment, so OK. Just takes one big hand.
Re: ***Offical Poker Thread***
Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2009 8:29 pm
by Drumstick
Pretty good start.
Serves the guy with the Jacks right for not raising pre flop. I didn't think that the hand would hold up actually, I did not want to be flipping with a flush draw. Whatever.