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Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:20 am
by Psychic
Sorry bro, I still got you there. Your idiot trying to give you his chips had 9% to win, mine only had 4.5%. 8-)

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:48 am
by Nova
WillHill is lame. I'm crushing a guy in a HU, he only has 700 left when he gets it all in with 46 on a 276 board and I call with K6. River 4 :?

You stealing my heat Rex?

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:51 am
by DML
Been in a triple chance for the past four and half hours and played really well, became chip leader with absolutely no rebuys, and just as we are in the final six just before the cash - I get Q-Q and end up against A-A and J-J.

I'm now in danger of not making the cash - what a jip....

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:55 am
by Slayerx
I'm off to bed packed my suitcase for tomorrow :D

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 1:12 am
by Psychic
DML wrote:Been in a triple chance for the past four and half hours and played really well, became chip leader with absolutely no rebuys, and just as we are in the final six just before the cash - I get Q-Q and end up against A-A and J-J.

I'm now in danger of not making the cash - what a jip....


Like the old proverb goes, never turn away a gift rebuy in the mouth. Always take the rebuy or something like that, I was never good with sayings.

TID.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:07 pm
by DML
It was a slog, but I got there!

:mrgreen:

Had to bust Q-Q with A-TEN to get there, but I managed to come third to win £165! And because they are doing an Xmas loyalty thing, and I squeezed in with the result last night, I get to go again tonight for free at a chance at a £2k fund! Its staggered stacks though, so I'll start off reasonably short - but its a nice bonus!

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:20 pm
by Drumstick
Well done!

Epic write up?

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:22 pm
by DML
Drumstick wrote:Well done!

Epic write up?


I'll try in a bit - got to try and remember it!

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:55 pm
by DML
Well, last night I tried my luck in the tournament. I stuck my twenty quid in for a 5k stack, and at the start no-one rebought at all, but that would change later. Early on I didn't get involved in many hands - but watched one guy call a massive all-in on a K-5-3 board with A-TEN.

:|

The other guy had K-Q, and he lost all his stack, he used both rebuys, and my intention from that moment was to try end in a big hand with him. Then I got into a hand on the button with SIX-FOUR diamonds, and flopped a straight - 3-5-7! This guy was in the hand, and called my first bet, and then I shoved all in and he called - he mucked but I imagine it was an A-7/A-5 kind of hand, so that was the start of my doubles. Anyway, as the action went on I was accumlating small pots until I was dealt finally dealt Aces. The guy I'd decimated shoved all in for about TEN BBs, and another guy called the sizeable all in. I Hollywooded FOR MY LIFE asked for a stack count and basically took a long time to shove. I shove, he insta-calls with Eights, the other guy turns over J-2 - LOL - and I make a massive stack going into the break. No add-ons, just guys using their rebuys if they wanted to. I came back to a 21k stack with average stacks at 17kish after rebuys. Its a bit disheartening to see your massive lead rebought back, but I thought that I'd done bloody well with my twenty, and I wasn't gonna get a better chance to win a good level of cash for a small investment. Don't panic!

Well, a few hands in, I was in the SB and had K-3s, with almost everyone limping in. I opt to do the same, and it comes K-SIX-3, it checks around to the donk who had called with A-TEN earlier. He bets large, and I call - everyone else folds. This was my moment. Then as if by magic, another 3 on the turn. This guy will call with everything, he has the only other big stack and I have the almost nuts. I bet, he then min raises. I shove all-in and he calls. I show, he mucks - I don't even think he had a King! So now I'm a massive stack to the table.

I take it very easy, stealing blinds every now and again with solid hands, rarely getting called, but basically utilising pot control to make sure I dont get into too much trouble. I end up grinding the stack up from 39k to around 51k.

Final table, and some more big stacks arrive at the table. I also have the added incentive that of I finish in the five, I will qualify for the big game the next night. I try not to get involved too uch early on.

Then, a guy who I have nicked some of his stack off, and was the other monster shoves all-in fro not much more over an original large bet. I have Queens, and go to isolate, but disaster as the guy who originally raised has Aces!

The Aces hold, and all my good work looks to have been wasted as I now lose sixty% of my stack, and now I'm the fifth stack with six left and four getting paid. The short stacks are not even shoving, so I shove for my life to get my stack into fourth. Then I see A-TEN, and a guy who has been raising every single hand more or less raises my BB, so I shove. He insta calls with Queens, but luckily I hit an Ace and a Ten and stay in, and back with a good sized stack. Eventually the small stacks are forced out, and I have made the money!

I lose some of my stack to a bit of a cooler, and then shove with 7-9 diamonds. I m called by Jacks - and hit two more sevens! So sick! So I double out and this basically keeps going on, no-one really getting anywhere, and no-one being the leader for more than two seconds. So we split the majority of the cash for £165 and played for the remaining £200. I then raise with suited connectors, and get the smallest stack shove over me, and I reluctantly have to call. He has Jacks -again! - which hold out, and so I am now the short stack. The two big stacks get into a battle with A-K vs SEVENS, and the A-K is crushed. He is then eliminated when someone elses Nines hold out against him, hitting a set.

So, three left, and I am by far the smallest stack, with about seven BBs. I shove with suited connectors again, and get called by.....JACKS AGAIN! This time they hold, and I am out in third, but getting more than I would have in third if it had we hadnt split.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 12:58 pm
by Psychic
gg

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:16 pm
by Rex McGee
The session I had last night was obviously run good variance side of things. Still I feel I have an edge in these games. My monthly profit is $764 ($903 with rakeback) and the EV is a bit lower at $570 but even then with RB that's looking at a +$700 month so far.

The video doesn't exactly show everything but the guide I typed up explains a lot. I definitely make mistakes in the video too. I'll record more though if anyone is interested. I really do believe I can make a lorra money out of these games.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:34 pm
by Nova
Thanks for the video Rex, it was a good watch. Do you think I can set myself a schedule where I play 3 different types of games in the week? Like 180 mans one day, then 9 mans the next, etc.? Or should I always play the same?

EDIT - OMG I just accidentally folded aces to a short opponent HU :fp:

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 3:45 pm
by Rex McGee
Well I'd say the best winrate comes from playing the game you play best, all the time. I cannot switch because I don't play well. After playing HU for so long 6max was insane. Similarly if you go from 6max to HU you play too tight. Right now all I am playing in HU SNG.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:42 pm
by Nova
I quite like these Super Turbos, Rex. I would have won 4 on the trot if it wasn't for my QQ being cracked by running 4s from A4 :cry:

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:54 pm
by satriales
Rex McGee wrote:The session I had last night was obviously run good variance side of things. Still I feel I have an edge in these games. My monthly profit is $764 ($903 with rakeback) and the EV is a bit lower at $570 but even then with RB that's looking at a +$700 month so far.

The video doesn't exactly show everything but the guide I typed up explains a lot. I definitely make mistakes in the video too. I'll record more though if anyone is interested. I really do believe I can make a lorra money out of these games.

Excellent stuff. I'm up $815 so far this month but half of that was from the 180mans yesterday. :mrgreen:

I watched your first video last night and it seemed fairly straightforward. Your opponents were much poorer than I would have expected at the £30/£50 level.

One hand that stood out for me was in the first or 2nd game where you both have similar stacks and you are the small button with 92o. You had shoved from the SB 100% of the time so far and then you shoved once again hoping to steal the blinds but he calls with 9T and you get knocked out. The shove might be technically correct but I just feel that if you fold those really poor hands occasionally (even if SNGWiz shows them to be correct shoves) then it shows your opponent you aren't just shoving any two and so the next time you do shove with 92o he might not be so quick to call with 9T. Anyway, it was probably not a bad shove but it just stood out as a hand I would have played differently.

If you make any more vids send them my way, I like watching super turbos. :D

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:16 pm
by Nova
Maybe Super Turbos are for me, at least for now. I actually got unlucky a fair bit, but still ended up $55 up after an hour of play (10 games). It would have been more if I hadn't accidentally folded my aces and lost with QQ vs A4. Awesome :)

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:53 pm
by Rex McGee
I did say there are things in the video I disagree with. I realised after making the play.

The thing is though if you are supposed to shove the hand, you should. Doing so means you aren't playing the strategy properly. If you dip in and out of it when you feel you might as well not do it at all. I do see your point though, but let's say he folds this time. Next hand he is perhaps even more likely to call with a bad hand? 9 high isn't that terrible. >_>

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:57 pm
by Oblomov Boblomov
I... have no desire to play poker. :?

Haven't for about a week now. Unfortunately, I do have this kind of personality where I get obsessed with something for a short period of time then move onto something else. Hmm.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:06 pm
by satriales
Yeah, like I say it was probably fine just that I would have folded I think and so it stood out for me.
With hands that are marginal shoves I like to fold them sometimes as you are not really losing much EV by doing so and you gain a bit of respect the next time you shove which is something the EV calculators don't take into account. I guess this is more suited to 9max games though as HU you don't really have time to be folding many hands.

Re: The Poker Thread - The Big Meet™

Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 6:39 pm
by Psychic
Goldomov, Oblincense and Myrrhblomov wrote:I... have no desire to play poker. :?

Haven't for about a week now. Unfortunately, I do have this kind of personality where I get obsessed with something for a short period of time then move onto something else. Hmm.


It happens sometimes bro. Just give it some time off and see if you feel more like it in a few days/weeks etc.