The Poker Thread

Drumstick wrote:My roll continues to move downwards. I'm at like $1430 now.

And it continues.

Drumstick wrote:

Drumstick wrote:My roll continues to move downwards. I'm at like $1430 now.

And it continues.

Losing $50 when your roll is $1480 is nothing to worry about. My roll is less than that and I have much bigger swings than that.

I've been registered for an $11 180 man for 12 minutes.

11 people in so far.

Luwinski wrote:Some cheapo stuff going under the last chance section on pokerstars store.

Bought the Donkey

Ecno wrote:

Luwinski wrote:Some cheapo stuff going under the last chance section on pokerstars store.

Bought the Donkey

lol

20 dollars now. I'd love to know what I'd have if my Aces hadn't have been cracked four our of six times...

Every time I get AA or KK I happen to be UTG and my raise scares everyone off, so I only pick up the blinds.
Maybe I should start limping those hands UTG and hope for some to raise me?

satriales wrote:Every time I get AA or KK I happen to be UTG and my raise scares everyone off, so I only pick up the blinds.
Maybe I should start limping those hands UTG and hope for some to raise me?

I've experimented and I'd say always raise. Too often they end up calling or stacking off. I have managed get the chips in the centre four of those six times I had Aces, winning two of them.

The only time I'd consider limping now is if a smaller stack is all in, and wait for another caller to make a huge mistake. UTG its frustrating to get it, but I still think raise is the play required, unless its really badly in push/fold territory perhaps.

I say raise but I generally subscribe to the philosophy of always raising as the first player in, so you can at least give another player a chance to make a mathematical mistake.

DML wrote:20 dollars now. I'd love to know what I'd have if my Aces hadn't have been cracked four our of six times...

23 dollars?

And I agree with everyone above. Aces are raised, spesh if UTG. Normally you get the donkeys to call, people still call with AQ etc. in position, and you have to compensate for being OOP in the first place, IMO.

Not raising UTG will look mega suspish especially if you are not limping other hands UTG! Just raise it!

Yeah I agree that limping is bad, it's just annoying when the table is really tight and everyone folds. What I've started doing instead now is to raise with hands like 89s from UTG so when I do have AA it might not be so obvious.

And can disguise you insanely well post!

You definitely have to balance your range pre, spesh as the stakes get higher.You should still be fine at $25NL though, tbh, there aren't enough people paying attention. Still, good practice for later.

Just played for an hour after work and finished with just $5 profit after being up $50 at one point.

I want a few opinions on how I should have played this hand:

I get 10c-9c on the small blind, with a stack of 4,500, the blinds being 500-1000. It's folded round to me, with the very loose big stack on the big blind. There are five players remaining.

I limped in hoping to set a double-trap (make him think I want him to put me all in, when in fact I want him to check). He checks and the flop comes down 8d-7h-3s, giving me an open-ended straight draw. At this point I tried to set the same trap, in order to get a free card, under the assumption that pushing wouldn't be enough to get him off the pot even if he'd only hit bottom pair (he is very loose and 'heroic'). He pushes me all-in and despite the maths not being right (32% without even 2:1 on my money) I made the call under the justification that I couldn't afford to spunk off many more blinds and this was a double-up chance. He won the hand with Q-high. Should I have folded pre-flop? Should I have pushed pre-flop? Should I have pushed before he had to chance to put me all-in? Should I have folded when he did? I've heard a variety of opinions from people. I'm interested in a few opinions from here.

Phatman wrote:I want a few opinions on how I should have played this hand:

I get 10c-9c on the small blind, with a stack of 4,500, the blinds being 500-1000. It's folded round to me, with the very loose big stack on the big blind. There are five players remaining.

I limped in hoping to set a double-trap (make him think I want him to put me all in, when in fact I want him to check). He checks and the flop comes down 8d-7h-3s, giving me an open-ended straight draw. At this point I tried to set the same trap, in order to get a free card, under the assumption that pushing wouldn't be enough to get him off the pot even if he'd only hit bottom pair (he is very loose and 'heroic'). He pushes me all-in and despite the maths not being right (32% without even 2:1 on my money) I made the call under the justification that I couldn't afford to spunk off many more blinds and this was a double-up chance. He won the hand with Q-high. Should I have folded pre-flop? Should I have pushed pre-flop? Should I have pushed before he had to chance to put me all-in? Should I have folded when he did? I've heard a variety of opinions from people. I'm interested in a few opinions from here.

Hang on...you limped with 4.5 big blinds? You have to shove, IMO. You're hand plays well against most of his calling range, even AK. Are you in the small blind? Definitely, definitely shove, I reckon. Don't worry if he calls, I don't think.

However, if you're really scared, just fold pre. But I wouldn't limp if I was you, as you have such a short stack.

Oh, and on the flop, if you haven't shoved already, definitely shove now. He has to fold a lot of hands, and fold equity is really important. Even if he is hardly ever folding, he's folding a hell of a lot more than when he puts you all in

Phatman wrote:I want a few opinions on how I should have played this hand:

I get 10c-9c on the small blind, with a stack of 4,500, the blinds being 500-1000. It's folded round to me..

I don't need to read the rest, with your stack being only 4.5x the big blind I would be shoving all-in with any two cards if it's folded to you in the small blind.

Your stack is too small to be setting traps, your options are simply all-in or fold and at this stage. Shoving and hoping to pick up the blinds or double up is the better option of the two. There are a few rare times where I wouldn't but generally if I have less than 10 big blinds I'm shoving anything from the small blind if it's folded to me.

Right, a debate has begun on MSN concerning how I played this hand.

All feedback appreciated.

I can understand checking the flop as there are no draws and it's unlikely he's hit, but I think you need to bet the turn once he checks it, and then he's practically priced in when you put your remaining chips in on the river.

As played I would have just shoved the river. You don't have much left behind anyway and the shove looks like a bluff, so 88 might still be calling you.