The Poker Thread

39W 33L is now the record. Feel a bit better about that, but there is room for improvement. Made two catastrophic shoves in the last ten games, one which I lucked out to stay in, the other where I was 0% shoving on the flop. Ouch.

Adjust mate. It's not always about being the PFR.

If the person is on to you button raise abuse then start calling the button more. He isn't often gonna raise out of position.

But yeah like 100% are playable from the button. I play about 99%!

Are you talking about 3betting? You shouldn't 3bet anywhere near as wide as you stated. You either pick up a small pot pre or get yourself into an annoying spot OOP. Be prepared to give up hands or just call when the blinds are low. It's likely at low stakes that most of the edge is post flop with them calling you down so light.

Rex McGee wrote:Are you talking about 3betting? You shouldn't 3bet anywhere near as wide as you stated. You either pick up a small pot pre or get yourself into an annoying spot OOP. Be prepared to give up hands or just call when the blinds are low. It's likely at low stakes that most of the edge is post flop with them calling you down so light.

Agreed, I think you can stick to just 3-betting the best hands and just play stuff like 66 straightforward. While it's not HU in particular, I've been rereading some stuff on 2+2 recently (Verneers moving through uNL which I believe is in the OP). This has had me tighten my range of 3bets and play more postflop poker and as such I've been winning more in general and am much happier with my play.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/8/tournament-poker/ should have some decent advice too.

I find 2+2 so hard to take apart. It's almost like there is too much. Got half term coming up soon so I will be able to play some MTTs I expect.

Well I had to withdraw my roll which sucks because I was doing okay.



My record on finishing for now was Forty Seven wins to Forty losses, which whilst isn't amazing, isn't bad either.

Felt I'd adjusted well as well. Wanted to get to one hundred, but needs must, and I got to take a fair whack of cash out.

Rex McGee wrote:I find 2+2 so hard to take apart. It's almost like there is too much. Got half term coming up soon so I will be able to play some MTTs I expect.

Yeah this, it's why I never actually bother reading the place.

I won the home game I played with my friends last night. 7 players, £25 for 1st and £10 for second. Was short stack for a long time and one of my friends had like 80% of the chips at one point three handed whilst myself and my other friend had around ten big blinds. We both doubled up through the chip leader, and then I doubled up once more to hold 40k of the 70k in play. The big hand came when I was the button. They had been folding a lot to any pre flop aggression so I'd been raising quite a bit with some fairly mediocre hands picking up the bind. Then I picked up AA and decided to put my trapping boots on with hope of getting some value, and limped in. The three of us got it all in on the 2h3h8d flop, both my friends had an 8 (T8 and Q8) but my friend with the Q8 had two hearts for the flush draw which came in. I still profited from the hand though as the my other friend's stack was much larger in comparison and by the time we'd stacked up our chips I had a 3.5:1 lead and soon closed it with K5hh > Q9o.

Also, once again, Team Game?

Looking unlikely for me at the moment due to maybe work and definitely money.

Was on a Uni trip to the Tate Modern today, so swang by the Casino in my two free hours. Sat down with £120 and left with £350. Ran good and played well. In the first six hands I had 7s twice and hit sets both times, I called two all ins with Aces which held, then laid down AK the hand after after three all ins in front of me. Would have spiked a K on the river to get the side pot, against JJ, AQ and QK, but the guy with QK tripled up. My proudest was this one though:

1/2 blinds, 7 seated. I'm holding 5s utg + 1 and raise to 8. Fiver runners to the flop. Comes Q62 with a FD. I lead out with a feeler bet of £10 to isolate suck outs, only lad on button calls. He's been semi loose since I've sat down, but hasn't played a hand in a while. Turn is a 4. I bet 15 and get raised to 30, I flat call. River is a Q, not completing the FD. I check into him and he shoves for £56 into a pot worth about 120. I am putting him on AK or KJ at this point, so I call, he has KJ.

Clarkman wrote:1/2 blinds, 7 seated. I'm holding 5s utg + 1 and raise to 8. Fiver runners to the flop. Comes Q62 with a FD. I lead out with a feeler bet of £10 to isolate suck outs, only lad on button calls. He's been semi loose since I've sat down, but hasn't played a hand in a while. Turn is a 4. I bet 15 and get raised to 30, I flat call. River is a Q, not completing the FD. I check into him and he shoves for £56 into a pot worth about 120. I am putting him on AK or KJ at this point, so I call, he has KJ.

Only £8?!

Why are you betting < 1/4 pot on turn?

Rex McGee wrote:

Clarkman wrote:1/2 blinds, 7 seated. I'm holding 5s utg + 1 and raise to 8. Fiver runners to the flop. Comes Q62 with a FD. I lead out with a feeler bet of £10 to isolate suck outs, only lad on button calls. He's been semi loose since I've sat down, but hasn't played a hand in a while. Turn is a 4. I bet 15 and get raised to 30, I flat call. River is a Q, not completing the FD. I check into him and he shoves for £56 into a pot worth about 120. I am putting him on AK or KJ at this point, so I call, he has KJ.

Only £8?!

Why are you betting < 1/4 pot on turn?

15 is better to commit than 20 if he has a hand to shove with. If he shoves on me, I fold, if he makes that min-raise, I instacall.

GUYS! I need to know if you are playing the TEAM EVENT OR NOT! As a matter of urgency!

Please please post so I don't keep Nick and the boyz waiting!

I linked you to this thread on MSN the other day when I posted about it.

As far as I can tell, myself you and Nova are in. Rex has said that he could play if we can get a fifth player.

Ahh sorry, I was completely hammered!

Nick has offered us another player if we need one...

I have no money to use so I can't. Sorry boys.

I'm a bit skint at the moment as my car needs a new exhaust, tax, MOT and insurance all in the next two weeks. So going to give it a miss this time, sorry.

Right well if Nick can lend us a fifth player and Rex is happy to play then we have a team. So it's with Rex for the time being.

Clarkman wrote:

Rex McGee wrote:

Clarkman wrote:1/2 blinds, 7 seated. I'm holding 5s utg + 1 and raise to 8. Fiver runners to the flop. Comes Q62 with a FD. I lead out with a feeler bet of £10 to isolate suck outs, only lad on button calls. He's been semi loose since I've sat down, but hasn't played a hand in a while. Turn is a 4. I bet 15 and get raised to 30, I flat call. River is a Q, not completing the FD. I check into him and he shoves for £56 into a pot worth about 120. I am putting him on AK or KJ at this point, so I call, he has KJ.

Only £8?!

Why are you betting < 1/4 pot on turn?

15 is better to commit than 20 if he has a hand to shove with. If he shoves on me, I fold, if he makes that min-raise, I instacall.

Still not really sure what you're trying to achieve. Pot is £60 and you get £15. Given your information he has £86 back and ?you have him covered?

Betting such a small percentage isn't exactly going to get a lot of hands to fold out. Calling £15 to win £75 is 5/1 so he needs to be good 17% of the time to justify a call. Not only that his overcard hands have a lot of room to improve over all your pair range (which you apparently always raise UTG+1). He has implied odds for the river and given the fact you are out of position you can lower his % to like 10% or something due to the fact he gets to rape the gooseberry fool out of your triple barrel bluff on the river or simply take the pot from you if you check.

Seems to me like you've not played much live cash because even online a 25% pot size bet is pathetic and achieves very little. You would only do that to pot control vs some retards who would otherwise bet into you or as a tiny value bet vs nits who don't know how to fold to small bets. Live however it's insane. Playing live vs retards you don't run bluffs, raise to like 7x pre and value bet the gooseberry fool out of top pair.

Also not sure how you magically think KJ. 5 handed and someone calling you then make a check min raise contains way more stuff that beats you.

RE team game: Got a date on Sunday so probably not going to make it. I guess I could ask if she wants to drive to Soton to play poker and be our 5th

Does she know how to play?!