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LEADING TWO STARS REBUYS AT ONCE! RAIL ME!

Wow - just got utterly coolered out of one! A-Q < K-9 J-J Q-Q then finally 4-4 <9-9. Ouch.

DML wrote:Wow - just got utterly coolered out of one! A-Q < K-9 J-J Q-Q then finally 4-4 <9-9. Ouch.

It was very harsh, especially when the 99 hit quads on the flop. The K-9 winning with a straight from the Q on the turn was also nasty.

<Edit> What happened in the other one?

Oh strawberry float off! Go out of the other one when some maniac calls my four-bet shove of A-Q with K-Q - hits a King.

No cashes. strawberry float off!

Your play with the J10 was poor. It was far too weak to isolate with.

SpaceJebus wrote:

DML wrote:Wow - just got utterly coolered out of one! A-Q < K-9 J-J Q-Q then finally 4-4 <9-9. Ouch.

It was very harsh, especially when the 99 hit quads on the flop. The K-9 winning with a straight from the Q on the turn was also nasty.

<Edit> What happened in the other one?

Blind on blind - he limps, I raise from BB with A-Q, he snaps all in - I snap call - K-Q and he hits a King on the turn. To make it worse there was a Queen on the flop, so even ifI had smoothed the hand would have gone the same way probably. Sigh...

Ecno wrote:Your play with the J10 was poor. It was far too weak to isolate with.

On the flop, I figure it being checked round to me neither has an 8. If they have an eight, they bet for sure. Any 7 is probably to weak a hand to play with and even if they call - I probably have two overs and the gutshot. They haven't shoved pre-flop so its hard to have them on an overpair. So when they check to me, its just to weak and I shoved. The trick to these turbos is to jump on ANY weakness, but also know when to smell a rat. I knew neither had a real hand, the guy makes a hero call - but I still have ten outs, of which one of them I hit. The reason for the pre-flop play was simply again I felt the play was too passive and I wanted to see how it would play out.

Anyway, gonna try again. $8.00 turbo and $3.30+R turbo.

That contraversial hand in full!

*********** # 7 **************
PokerStars Game #66139234173: Tournament #428664864, $3.19+$0.31 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2011/08/17 15:20:04 WET [2011/08/17 10:20:04 ET]
Table '428664864 14' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Creg_Allenki (6880 in chips)
Seat 2: "carota"2009 (23060 in chips)
Seat 3: 903060 (10966 in chips)
Seat 4: gurpal83 (9639 in chips)
Seat 5: melgen998 (4020 in chips)
Seat 6: x Hei Witt x (7381 in chips)
Seat 7: artvid (6868 in chips)
Seat 8: Tyranniz (7675 in chips)
Seat 9: lizzimba (17788 in chips)
Creg_Allenki: posts the ante 50
"carota"2009: posts the ante 50
903060: posts the ante 50
gurpal83: posts the ante 50
melgen998: posts the ante 50
x Hei Witt x: posts the ante 50
artvid: posts the ante 50
Tyranniz: posts the ante 50
lizzimba: posts the ante 50
gurpal83: posts small blind 200
melgen998: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lizzimba [Jc Ts]
x Hei Witt x: calls 400
artvid: calls 400
Tyranniz: folds
lizzimba: raises 2000 to 2400
Creg_Allenki: folds
"carota"2009: folds
903060: folds
gurpal83: folds
melgen998: folds
x Hei Witt x: calls 2000
artvid: calls 2000
*** FLOP *** [2c 8h 7d]
x Hei Witt x: checks
artvid: checks
lizzimba: bets 15338 and is all-in
x Hei Witt x: calls 4931 and is all-in
artvid: folds
Uncalled bet (10407) returned to lizzimba
*** TURN *** [2c 8h 7d] [9s]
*** RIVER *** [2c 8h 7d 9s] [Qh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
x Hei Witt x: shows [3h 3d] (a pair of Threes)
lizzimba: shows [Jc Ts] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
lizzimba collected 18112 from pot
x Hei Witt x finished the tournament in 100th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 18112 | Rake 0
Board [2c 8h 7d 9s Qh]
Seat 1: Creg_Allenki folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: "carota"2009 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 903060 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: gurpal83 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: melgen998 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: x Hei Witt x showed [3h 3d] and lost with a pair of Threes
Seat 7: artvid folded on the Flop
Seat 8: Tyranniz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: lizzimba showed [Jc Ts] and won (18112) with a straight, Eight to Queen

I don't hate that play. If they are limping then you can often raise with anything from that position and pick up the blinds and antes. Flop looks standard too considering they are short and have checked, and you have a gutshot with two overs.

I might have made the pre-flop raise a tiny bit smaller (2000 total) as it's still 1/3rd of their stack to call and a bit easier for you to get away if the flop is no good, or they 3bet pre.

satriales wrote:I don't hate that play. If they are limping then you can often raise with anything from that position and pick up the blinds and antes. Flop looks standard too considering they are short and have checked, and you have a gutshot with two overs.

I might have made the pre-flop raise a tiny bit smaller (2000 total) as it's still 1/3rd of their stack to call and a bit easier for you to get away if the flop is no good, or they 3bet pre.

I'm not too keen, to be honest. Considering effective stacks, the raise is too big, and it's just not necessary to play a flop with JT against a stack that has so much invested pre. Wrong sort of hand, IMO.

http://uk.pokernews.com/news/2011/08/du ... y-7031.htm

Aaron and I are probably going to try get into this tomorrow. Dunno if anyone else wants to. Its for this weekend.

I would 100% do it, but I'm unavailable

Nova wrote:

satriales wrote:I don't hate that play. If they are limping then you can often raise with anything from that position and pick up the blinds and antes. Flop looks standard too considering they are short and have checked, and you have a gutshot with two overs.

I might have made the pre-flop raise a tiny bit smaller (2000 total) as it's still 1/3rd of their stack to call and a bit easier for you to get away if the flop is no good, or they 3bet pre.

I'm not too keen, to be honest. Considering effective stacks, the raise is too big, and it's just not necessary to play a flop with JT against a stack that has so much invested pre. Wrong sort of hand, IMO.

The limps look extremely weak, and so there's 2k of dead money in the pot. A 2k raise probably wins that pot most of the time and so I don't think it's too bad. I agree that effective stacks mean you probably don't want to raise it so much, but I'd still raise it to 1800 or 2000 and hope to take it down most of the time without without seeing a flop.

Rex McGee wrote:http://uk.pokernews.com/news/2011/08/dusk-till-dawn-grand-prix-heading-for-119-500-overlay-7031.htm

Aaron and I are probably going to try get into this tomorrow. Dunno if anyone else wants to. Its for this weekend.

I'd like to but it's a bit short notice and too far to go for me. Are you still playing the Goliath? I have a seat booked but if nobody else is going I might as well sell my seat.

RE: Goliath I am going to see nearer the time. 3 days (yeah I plan to win) might be too much out of my schedule the week before I get back to work. If I play I will just play the Wednesday. You can still stay over though and we will obv see you on day 2 and 3 and final table.

I thnk Sykes is in as well. (Fairly sure Aaron will be in too).

What site/network do you qualify on? And what's that make the live buy in?

Ecno wrote:What site/network do you qualify on? And what's that make the live buy in?

You need to read DTD site. It's a bit weird how you qualifty for the day 2. It's like a satelite because everyone starts day 2 with 15k and 40 min levels. Due to the size of the satelite fields it looks like the live day 2 might have approx 250 runners (according to Aaron) making your effective buyin 1k euros.

You qualify on the DTD ipoker skin.

Rex McGee wrote:RE: Goliath I am going to see nearer the time. 3 days (yeah I plan to win) might be too much out of my schedule the week before I get back to work. If I play I will just play the Wednesday. You can still stay over though and we will obv see you on day 2 and 3 and final table.

I thnk Sykes is in as well. (Fairly sure Aaron will be in too).

Sounds good. Count me in as a definate then.

I think I'll try and qualify then.