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PostRe: The Poker Thread - GRUNCH
by satriales » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:02 pm

Drumstick wrote:I'm going to post this on behalf of Jamie GR who appears to have forgotten. :shifty:

The situation: You are two hours into a tournament (live or online) and have an average stack. You have only just moved to your current table and have no reads on any of the other players yet. The player to act before you who has a similar stack raises preflop, you look down to see you've been dealt AK, and make a decent sized three-bet. Everyone else gets out of the way and improbably he four-bets you all in.

Do you call?

Depends on stack sizes, how much I've already committed, tournament structure and various other things. If the blinds are small and I have a big stack then I'll probably give it up and wait for a better chance.

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - GRUNCH
by DML » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:09 pm

It is a hard one because you see so many spazzy fish live who will do that with much less then Kings or Aces. If I have already commited a lot of my stack, I'd side on the side of the gamble, but if its bigger stacks, they'll always be a better spot.

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - GRUNCH
by Ecno » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:12 pm

How many Big Blinds do you have?

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - GRUNCH
by Drumstick » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:13 pm

You will have to ask Jamie as he wasn't specific about these things (which I queried).

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - GRUNCH
by Oblomov Boblomov » Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:20 pm

I like to keep you in the dark, Drummy.

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - GRUNCH
by Rex McGee » Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:08 pm

I went a bit mental the other day and played HU $20/$40 stud and lost $400. Was up $450 at one point too. Won't be doing that again. :lol:

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - GRUNCH
by satriales » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:53 pm

Playing a MTT and I get it in on the turn with KT against TT on a KQJ5 board and so i'm well ahead and unless the final ten comes on the river I've either won or we both make a straight and it is a split pot. The river is a ten :|

Then on another MTT which I was playing at the same time I have a king high flush and it gets checked to me on the river. I make a massive overbet to make it look lik a bluff thinking I can get paid off and the other guy stalls for ages while he thinks then he finally calls and he has the ace high flush which also happens to be the nuts. He slow-rolled me :fp: :evil:

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - GRUNCH
by Nova » Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:35 pm

satriales wrote:
Nova wrote:
satriales wrote:
Nova wrote:Why bet the turn there, out of interest? Weird fold though :lol:

I don't think it's a bad bet, if he's chasing the flush (which he obv was with the river fold) then you want to make him pay to see cards. Yeah he could have an ace but a lot of the time he doesn't and the turn is good as it makes it even less likely that he hit the flop.


Even less likely that he has two clubs than an ace though. The bet is a good size, to be fair, but I still like to keep the pot smallish in those situations. They show up with a raggy ace more than a flush draw in those spots.

Yeah sometimes they have an ace but I think the main idea is to have control of the pot rather than give control to your opponent.

If you decide instead to check/call the turn then your opponent could make the turn bet 500 and bet again on the river. He doesn't even have to have a hand to do it as your check showed weakness. By betting first you can keep the pot reasonably small, often take it down there and then, and still get away if it is played back at you.

I understand that, yeah. Fair shout, you are open to losing control of the pot. I'm just all about chip preservation in SnGs, so I don't make that play as much there. Worked out fine there, though.

EDIT - And lol with the slowroll Sat :lol:

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - GRUNCH
by Luwinski » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:48 am

satriales wrote:Playing a MTT and I get it in on the turn with KT against TT on a KQJ5 board and so i'm well ahead and unless the final ten comes on the river I've either won or we both make a straight and it is a split pot. The river is a ten :|

Then on another MTT which I was playing at the same time I have a king high flush and it gets checked to me on the river. I make a massive overbet to make it look lik a bluff thinking I can get paid off and the other guy stalls for ages while he thinks then he finally calls and he has the ace high flush which also happens to be the nuts. He slow-rolled me :fp: :evil:



lol slow roll he was obvs considering u having a boat!

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - GRUNCH
by Red Devil » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:15 am

I need to play 47 more $1 SnGs to get on to the high orbit board for this week. Do I go for it?

EDIT: Nevermind the leaderboard for this week is over with. :lol: :fp:

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - GRUNCH
by Slayerx » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:24 pm

Going on a grind session this afternoon be 4.40 mania 3 at once with a 5.50 too I think going for volume today possibly be a 6 - 10 hour session all been well !

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - GRUNCH
by satriales » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:51 pm

Slayerx wrote:Going on a grind session this afternoon be 4.40 mania 3 at once with a 5.50 too I think going for volume today possibly be a 6 - 10 hour session all been well !

I might do something similar. I didn't play much at all in feb and I've hardly played much this month, but if I can earn 1450 points at Stars by 8th April then I get $150 bonus, so I need to put some real volume in.

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - GRUNCH
by Drumstick » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:55 pm

I am in for some grinding. Let's do it.

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - The Grind
by Slayerx » Sat Mar 20, 2010 1:15 pm

I'll be on msn later just got home, need to go out soon do some food shopping for this epic session I aim to be on the tables from about 3pm.

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - The Grind
by Slayerx » Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:14 pm

Had to change my msn address as my account got hacked.

Anyway add me guys slay3rx@hotmail.co.uk

I'm signed in now but I'm off food shopping so won't accept until I'm back around 3pm.

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - The Grind
by Luwinski » Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:39 pm

might join you guys, give us a holla on msn kingchris1989@hotmail.com

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - The Grind
by Drumstick » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:22 pm

Added both of you noobs. This afternoon's session went well.

Bankroll is back up to $719. Preferred it at $876 though.

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - The Grind
by Ecno » Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:53 pm

I'm playing in MFTOPS Event 22 $250+16 (2Day) Antes from start.

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - The Grind
by DML » Sat Mar 20, 2010 7:19 pm

My poor mate went to the first ApAT event in Swansea, and was first out.

Flopped a nut straight with A-J, got it all in against K-TEN who then rivers a FH.

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PostRe: The Poker Thread - The Grind
by Luwinski » Sat Mar 20, 2010 10:36 pm

was nice and cozy on 9k chips in the 2.75 $7500 guaranteed 3000 above average and have played supppper knit.

Then I run into this bruiser :(

***** Hand History for Game 41457235479 ***** (Poker Stars)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Saturday, March 20, 10:31:34 ET 2010
Table 302010696 208 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Seat 1: weber1952 ( $11970.00 USD )
Seat 2: Fr.Te. ( $6685.00 USD )
Seat 3: Mark88fan ( $925.00 USD )
Seat 4: Luwinski ( $9185.00 USD )
Seat 5: 2dogsmsm ( $4110.00 USD )
Seat 6: goodgosh ( $1790.00 USD )
Seat 7: CallMeMiKK ( $5125.00 USD )
Seat 8: parche28 ( $5115.00 USD )
Seat 9: kamogrant61 ( $5246.00 USD )
Mark88fan posts small blind [$100.00 USD].
Luwinski posts big blind [$200.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Luwinski [ Ad As ]
2dogsmsm folds
goodgosh folds
CallMeMiKK folds
parche28 folds
kamogrant61 folds
weber1952 folds
Fr.Te. raises [$600.00 USD]
Mark88fan folds
Luwinski raises [$1100.00 USD]
Fr.Te. raises [$6085.00 USD]
Luwinski calls [$5385.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ks, 7d, Kh ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6h ]
** Dealing River ** [ Jh ]
Luwinski shows [Ad, As ]
Fr.Te. shows [Ac, Kc ]
Fr.Te. wins $13470.00 USD from main pot



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