The Poker Thread

PsychicSykes wrote:Qualified to the Big Freeze.

I've just realised we were on the same Final Table.

We didn't take too many of each others chips did we?

PsychicSykes wrote:We didn't take too many of each others chips did we?

No I don't think we took any besides blinds I'm flicking through the hands now.

Edit: I took a net 470 chips from you.

Right, I'm just wondering whether I did the wrong thing here.

I'm under chip average but I've still got about 20BB. I get AK in MP and there is one 4BB raise in the position just before me. This guy has around 25BB. I raise by another 4BB and then there is one caller. Flop comes down what appears to be a blank. The first guy checks so I do a 40% pot bet. The other guy folds and this first guy calls me. The turn is a King and by this point I have around 7BB left so I shove all in and he calls me showing a set of fives made on the flop. I bow out gracefully, before standing up from my seat and cursing his mother.

I'm not sure whether I raised correctly pre or what I did was right on the flop. I know I would never call a raise the size I did if I had pocket fives, that's for sure!

I've not really got my poker head on right now but I might be tempted to shove preflop. Given any raise is going to be putting nearly half (or more) of your stack in the pot, it's going to be close to getting yourself pot committed so I'd be happy to see five cards with a good hand from the shove or add the 1/4 sized stack pot to the rest of my chips (That last bits really badly worded sorry). The flop bet depends on how the other guys have been playing and how or even if they've bothered paying attention to your play, but I don't think it's awful. Have a bonus point for cussing his momma and expect someone else to put a more coherent response together tommorow morning.

Goldomov, Oblincense and Myrrhblomov wrote:Right, I'm just wondering whether I did the wrong thing here.

I'm under chip average but I've still got about 20BB. I get AK in MP and there is one 4BB raise in the position just before me. This guy has around 25BB. I raise by another 4BB and then there is one caller. Flop comes down what appears to be a blank. The first guy checks so I do a 40% pot bet. The other guy folds and this first guy calls me. The turn is a King and by this point I have around 7BB left so I shove all in and he calls me showing a set of fives made on the flop. I bow out gracefully, before standing up from my seat and cursing his mother.

I'm not sure whether I raised correctly pre or what I did was right on the flop. I know I would never call a raise the size I did if I had pocket fives, that's for sure!

Shove pre but I don't like it.

Okay, thanks for the feedback. I didn't think I was at the shove or fold stage of the game just at that moment, although I can see why this would be the case with the 4bet before me.

A 4 bet is the 4th bet rather than a bet of magnitude 4. The blinds count as a 1 bet, the first raise is a 2bet, so you 3bet and anyone raising after you would 4bet etc.

The problem is preflop pretty much. Everything after that is ok. You might want to bet more on the flop but getting AI there is ok. Preflop though the raise is too small. I normally raise about 3 times what they do. This is like half your stack which means you are probably getting AI on most flops if checked to you and if you miss they can ship lots of flops and you lose half a stack. Just shoving pre makes the decision a lot easier and might help to give you a bit of an image.

Well done noobs in the big freeze. See you at FT.

Are these satelleites going every day? I go home on Sunday so I'll be trying each day next week. You're playing the one on the 29th, ya?

Daily at 8:30pm. Yes 29th.

Rex McGee wrote:Daily at 8:30pm. Yes 29th.

excellent! Ill play then midweek when there are less people- im guessing they never get enough people to exceed the three seats?

Not the ones I've seen. Ask Sykes, he played them all so far.

Didn't play the one on Wednesday and I'm pretty sure I missed another actually. Anyway they've never reached the guarantee when I've played them but it might be worth waiting till Monday to start trying as the early weekdays seem to have the fewest entrants. Just play tight and realise that you do have fold equity when the blinds are large, even when you only have four or five big blinds.

PsychicSykes wrote:Didn't play the one on Wednesday and I'm pretty sure I missed another actually. Anyway they've never reached the guarantee when I've played them but it might be worth waiting till Monday to start trying as the early weekdays seem to have the fewest entrants. Just play tight and realise that you do have fold equity when the blinds are large, even when you only have four or five big blinds.

Fold equity refers to the equity you receive if the opponent folds to your bet a certain % of the time. Nothing to do with you folding.

Is this tourney your all talking about on W Hill?

Yes.

Rex McGee wrote:

PsychicSykes wrote:Didn't play the one on Wednesday and I'm pretty sure I missed another actually. Anyway they've never reached the guarantee when I've played them but it might be worth waiting till Monday to start trying as the early weekdays seem to have the fewest entrants. Just play tight and realise that you do have fold equity when the blinds are large, even when you only have four or five big blinds.

Fold equity refers to the equity you receive if the opponent folds to your bet a certain % of the time. Nothing to do with you folding.

Yes and my point was that even when you're shortstacked in that tournament people will still fold to your shoves, mainly because they get scared of the big blind sizes.

Oh. It's just when you said "Play tight and..." I thought you meant you can fold lots of spots. Yeah all good. Ship any two in most spots.

I'm in the satellite tonight on WH.

Slayerx wrote:I'm in the satellite tonight on WH.

Ok Aaron will be too as forestarm. Might want to msn or something.