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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by Rex McGee » Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:49 pm

PsychicSykes wrote:You didn't play it badly by any means, but I prefer to bet more on the flop. The pot is 820 and your stack is 2680, his is 2515.


Pot is 760? 480/760 = 63%. Not bad IMO. I think the flop bet as played and shove the river. If you bet too much at flop he just folds so many hands. Price him in and shove the turn.

I didn't cash in the Omaha tournament today at poker soc and lost £30 playing cash.

1. Set vs over set
2. Two pair vs better two pair
3. AK vs AQ

BOOOO. On the + side I cashed in a SnG online.

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by Psychic » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:13 pm

Rex McGee wrote:
PsychicSykes wrote:You didn't play it badly by any means, but I prefer to bet more on the flop. The pot is 820 and your stack is 2680, his is 2515.


Pot is 760? 480/760 = 63%. Not bad IMO. I think the flop bet as played and shove the river. If you bet too much at flop he just folds so many hands. Price him in and shove the turn.


You forgot the blinds. :P I think, he's calling 480 he's probably not folding for 120 more. The whole reason for that is to build the pot so that he can end up calling all in on the turn with the worst hand. I think you're agreeing with me, but not the flop bet right?

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by Rex McGee » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:51 pm

PsychicSykes wrote:
Rex McGee wrote:
PsychicSykes wrote:You didn't play it badly by any means, but I prefer to bet more on the flop. The pot is 820 and your stack is 2680, his is 2515.


Pot is 760? 480/760 = 63%. Not bad IMO. I think the flop bet as played and shove the river. If you bet too much at flop he just folds so many hands. Price him in and shove the turn.


You forgot the blinds. :P I think, he's calling 480 he's probably not folding for 120 more. The whole reason for that is to build the pot so that he can end up calling all in on the turn with the worst hand. I think you're agreeing with me, but not the flop bet right?


I really don't think I have. You always seem to misread pot totals? =\

Blinds are in @ 80 + 40 = 120. Some guy limps for 80. Nova makes it 320. Guy calls the 240 extra. Blinds fold.

320*2 = 640 + 120 = 760.

I think he would fold LOADS of hands to a 600 bet into a 760 pot. I know I would be. I think 480 is ok really. It gets a call. The turn comes good so takes the moneys there. Building pot arguments break down as soon as you reach the point where they fold too much of their range. In this case I think he will fold lots to a bet in excess of 500.

I think we agree but your miscalculated pot suggests you would bet too much on the flop? Certainly if it's 800 then 600 is all fine and good to go @ turn.

Playing 2 SNG tonight. Busto in one vs fish with Top pair top kicker and nut flush draw all in. GRRR.

EDIT: Flipped bad in the second one.

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by Psychic » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:01 am

Yeah, I've counted an extra blind for some reason. :fp: Disregard.

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by Nova » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:27 am

Running 254th out of 900 ish in a 6000 2.75$ tourney atm. Was running out of time but a little patience allowed me to pretty much triple up in 6 hands. Hopefully this can make up for the disappointment of recent poker attempts!

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by Nova » Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:49 am

PokerStars Game #24540195375: Tournament #137802096, $2.50+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2009/02/03 0:47:25 GMT [2009/02/02 19:47:25 ET]
Table '137802096 223' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Arturinho7 (26767 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 2: pauliancu (13826 in chips)
Seat 3: SJON56 (30633 in chips)
Seat 4: xMuRd3Rx (4903 in chips) out of hand (moved from another table into small blind)
Seat 5: sascha b. 79 (11296 in chips)
Seat 6: RichardNova (19993 in chips)
Seat 7: love_2_winn (30088 in chips)
Seat 8: stevethebook (9835 in chips)
Seat 9: bobamo (5020 in chips)
Arturinho7: posts the ante 75
pauliancu: posts the ante 75
SJON56: posts the ante 75
sascha b. 79: posts the ante 75
RichardNova: posts the ante 75
love_2_winn: posts the ante 75
stevethebook: posts the ante 75
bobamo: posts the ante 75
sascha b. 79: posts small blind 400
RichardNova: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RichardNova [4d 4h]
love_2_winn: calls 800
stevethebook: folds
bobamo: folds
Arturinho7: folds
love_2_winn said, "tx"
pauliancu: calls 800
SJON56: folds
sascha b. 79: folds
Arturinho7 has returned
RichardNova: checks
*** FLOP *** [7s 4c 4s]
RichardNova: checks
love_2_winn: bets 800
pauliancu: calls 800
RichardNova: calls 800
*** TURN *** [7s 4c 4s] [5c]
RichardNova: checks
love_2_winn: bets 800
pauliancu: calls 800
RichardNova: calls 800
*** RIVER *** [7s 4c 4s 5c] [Ts]
RichardNova: bets 5600
love_2_winn: raises 5600 to 11200
pauliancu: folds
RichardNova: raises 6318 to 17518 and is all-in
love_2_winn: calls 6318
*** SHOW DOWN ***
RichardNova: shows [4d 4h] (four of a kind, Fours)
love_2_winn: shows [5h 5s] (a full house, Fives full of Fours)
RichardNova collected 43236 from pot
sascha b. 79 said, "lol"
love_2_winn said, "nice"
sascha b. 79 said, "vvnh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 43236 | Rake 0
Board [7s 4c 4s 5c Ts]
Seat 1: Arturinho7 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: pauliancu folded on the River
Seat 3: SJON56 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: sascha b. 79 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: RichardNova (big blind) showed [4d 4h] and won (43236) with four of a kind, Fours
Seat 7: love_2_winn showed [5h 5s] and lost with a full house, Fives full of Fours
Seat 8: stevethebook folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: bobamo folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Not a bad big blind!

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PokerStars Game #24540721084: Tournament #137802096, $2.50+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2009/02/03 1:07:56 GMT [2009/02/02 20:07:56 ET]
Table '137802096 141' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Elprimo69 (45371 in chips)
Seat 2: RichardNova (25238 in chips)
Seat 3: smiket (3590 in chips)
Seat 4: Smanaca (29540 in chips)
Seat 5: Lee212121 (10181 in chips)
Seat 6: MONOBLOK (32364 in chips)
Seat 7: no3puttever (17510 in chips)
Seat 8: ser2a (34655 in chips)
Seat 9: Vash_Sama (12718 in chips)
Elprimo69: posts the ante 100
RichardNova: posts the ante 100
smiket: posts the ante 100
Smanaca: posts the ante 100
Lee212121: posts the ante 100
MONOBLOK: posts the ante 100
no3puttever: posts the ante 100
ser2a: posts the ante 100
Vash_Sama: posts the ante 100
Lee212121: posts small blind 500
MONOBLOK: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RichardNova [As Ah]
no3puttever: folds
ser2a: folds
Vash_Sama: calls 1000
Elprimo69: folds
RichardNova: raises 3000 to 4000
smiket: folds
Smanaca: folds
Lee212121: folds
MONOBLOK: folds
Vash_Sama: raises 8618 to 12618 and is all-in
RichardNova: calls 8618
*** FLOP *** [8s Qs Kd]
*** TURN *** [8s Qs Kd] [Kh]
*** RIVER *** [8s Qs Kd Kh] [7c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Vash_Sama: shows [Tc Kc] (three of a kind, Kings)
RichardNova: shows [As Ah] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
Vash_Sama collected 27636 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 27636 | Rake 0
Board [8s Qs Kd Kh 7c]
Seat 1: Elprimo69 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: RichardNova showed [As Ah] and lost with two pair, Aces and Kings
Seat 3: smiket folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Smanaca (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Lee212121 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: MONOBLOK (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: no3puttever folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ser2a folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Vash_Sama showed [Tc Kc] and won (27636) with three of a kind, Kings


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DOUBLE EDIT: Minutes later:

PokerStars Game #24540900298: Tournament #137802096, $2.50+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2009/02/03 1:14:46 GMT [2009/02/02 20:14:46 ET]
Table '137802096 141' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: Elprimo69 (50671 in chips)
Seat 2: RichardNova (12120 in chips)
Seat 3: nanoose (49752 in chips)
Seat 4: Smanaca (29040 in chips)
Seat 5: Lee212121 (7181 in chips)
Seat 6: MONOBLOK (37644 in chips)
Seat 7: no3puttever (15510 in chips)
Seat 8: ser2a (37955 in chips)
Seat 9: Vash_Sama (21046 in chips)
Elprimo69: posts the ante 100
RichardNova: posts the ante 100
nanoose: posts the ante 100
Smanaca: posts the ante 100
Lee212121: posts the ante 100
MONOBLOK: posts the ante 100
no3puttever: posts the ante 100
ser2a: posts the ante 100
Vash_Sama: posts the ante 100
Elprimo69: posts small blind 500
RichardNova: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RichardNova [Ad Qc]
nanoose: folds
Smanaca: folds
Lee212121: calls 1000
MONOBLOK: calls 1000
no3puttever: folds
ser2a: calls 1000
Vash_Sama: raises 3000 to 4000
Elprimo69: folds
RichardNova: raises 8020 to 12020 and is all-in
Lee212121: calls 6081 and is all-in
MONOBLOK: folds
ser2a: folds
Vash_Sama: calls 8020
*** FLOP *** [7d 2d Qh]
*** TURN *** [7d 2d Qh] [9d]
*** RIVER *** [7d 2d Qh 9d] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
RichardNova: shows [Ad Qc] (a pair of Queens)
Vash_Sama: shows [Js Kc] (a straight, Nine to King)
Vash_Sama collected 9878 from side pot
Lee212121: shows [Ah Td] (a pair of Tens)
Vash_Sama collected 24643 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 34521 Main pot 24643. Side pot 9878. | Rake 0
Board [7d 2d Qh 9d Ts]
Seat 1: Elprimo69 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: RichardNova (big blind) showed [Ad Qc] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 3: nanoose folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Smanaca folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Lee212121 showed [Ah Td] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 6: MONOBLOK folded before Flop
Seat 7: no3puttever folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: ser2a folded before Flop
Seat 9: Vash_Sama (button) showed [Js Kc] and won (34521) with a straight, Nine to King


Not to mention my AK suited being beaten by 108 after chips in pre-flop. Man, what the actual feck?

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by SpaceJebus » Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:18 am

That was really unlucky Nova, when I saw the Queen on the flop I thought you were getting some luck back after the AA's.

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by Nova » Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:18 am

SpaceJebus wrote:That was really unlucky Nova, when I saw the Queen on the flop I thought you were getting some luck back after the AA's.


Dude, I thought it had to be a joke! Absolute craziness :cry:

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by SpaceJebus » Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:22 am

Nova wrote:
SpaceJebus wrote:That was really unlucky Nova, when I saw the Queen on the flop I thought you were getting some luck back after the AA's.


Dude, I thought it had to be a joke! Absolute craziness :cry:


Same guy both times as well. If it's any concelation I thought you'd been playing well up to that point.

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by Nova » Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:25 am

SpaceJebus wrote:
Nova wrote:
SpaceJebus wrote:That was really unlucky Nova, when I saw the Queen on the flop I thought you were getting some luck back after the AA's.


Dude, I thought it had to be a joke! Absolute craziness :cry:


Same guy both times as well. If it's any concelation I thought you'd been playing well up to that point.


Thanks mate. I thought it was only a matter of playing the best hands that would get me to the last 100.

I wrong assumed that AA was better than K10, AK was better than T8 and AQ was better than AT and KJ :P

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by Rex McGee » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:34 am

Only 6 tables today but much better results. (Well, two are still going but I am pretty deep in both).

I've just download "SNG Wizard" as it seems good and I want to see how I am playing @ the bubble. Will let you guys know if it is any good.

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by Drumstick » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:38 am

I was a little bored and couldn't sleep so I've popped on for a while. Started off well when I hit a set of fives with my first pocket pair of the session although I didn't take much from it. Took a nice pot off some guy when I hit top two with AK vs his A7. Also picked up Aces three times already with varied results. The first was this:

PokerStars Game #24577814719: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2009/02/04 5:15:48 GMT [2009/02/04 0:15:48 ET]
Table 'Hesperia' 6-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: luvtoplay814 ($8.87 in chips)
Seat 2: lLlD ($2.93 in chips)
Seat 3: Dhinihan ($5 in chips)
Seat 4: Heelsfan08 ($3.19 in chips)
Seat 5: Proper Zing ($17.15 in chips)
Seat 6: 19Reaper19 ($1.56 in chips)
Dhinihan: posts small blind $0.02
Heelsfan08: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Proper Zing [Ah Ac]
Proper Zing: calls $0.05
19Reaper19: raises $0.05 to $0.10
luvtoplay814: folds
lLlD: raises $0.10 to $0.20
Dhinihan: folds
Heelsfan08: calls $0.15
Proper Zing: raises $0.40 to $0.60
19Reaper19: folds
lLlD: raises $2.33 to $2.93 and is all-in
Heelsfan08: calls $2.73
Proper Zing: raises $2.33 to $5.26
Heelsfan08: calls $0.26 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($2.07) returned to Proper Zing
*** FLOP *** [3s 6h Qs]
*** TURN *** [3s 6h Qs] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [3s 6h Qs 6s] [7s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Heelsfan08: shows [6d Ad] (three of a kind, Sixes)
Proper Zing: mucks hand
Heelsfan08 collected $0.47 from side pot
lLlD: shows [Qh As] (a flush, Ace high)
lLlD collected $8.51 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $9.43 Main pot $8.51. Side pot $0.47. | Rake $0.45
Board [3s 6h Qs 6s 7s]
Seat 1: luvtoplay814 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: lLlD (button) showed [Qh As] and won ($8.51) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: Dhinihan (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Heelsfan08 (big blind) showed [6d Ad] and won ($0.47) with three of a kind, Sixes
Seat 5: Proper Zing mucked [Ah Ac]
Seat 6: 19Reaper19 folded before Flop
Twas a little annoying but I'm very happy with my level of tilt, I can't remember the last time I did in fact. I do stew and moan about some hands for a while as some of you will know but I don't allow it to affect my play. Second time I got 'em my raise was folded to. The third time though, I got some redemption and my money back.

PokerStars Game #24577957132: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2009/02/04 5:22:47 GMT [2009/02/04 0:22:47 ET]
Table 'Hesperia' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: luvtoplay814 ($6.84 in chips)
Seat 2: lLlD ($10.11 in chips)
Seat 3: Dhinihan ($5 in chips)
Seat 5: Proper Zing ($12.29 in chips)
Seat 6: 19Reaper19 ($4.17 in chips)
luvtoplay814: posts small blind $0.02
lLlD: posts big blind $0.05
Drewvolfah: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Proper Zing [Ah Ad]
Dhinihan: folds
Proper Zing: raises $0.15 to $0.20
19Reaper19: folds
luvtoplay814: calls $0.18
lLlD: raises $0.40 to $0.60
Proper Zing: raises $11.69 to $12.29 and is all-in
luvtoplay814: folds
lLlD: calls $9.51 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($2.18) returned to Proper Zing
*** FLOP *** [Qs 4c 2c]
lLlD said, "kk"
*** TURN *** [Qs 4c 2c] [5c]
*** RIVER *** [Qs 4c 2c 5c] [3s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
lLlD: shows [Kc Ks] (a pair of Kings)
Proper Zing: shows [Ah Ad] (a straight, Ace to Five)
Proper Zing collected $19.42 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $20.42 | Rake $1
Board [Qs 4c 2c 5c 3s]
Seat 1: luvtoplay814 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: lLlD (big blind) showed [Kc Ks] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 3: Dhinihan folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Proper Zing showed [Ah Ad] and won ($19.42) with a straight, Ace to Five
Seat 6: 19Reaper19 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by Rex McGee » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:00 pm

Last pot is very big, good work. Surely you were up for the session?

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by Drumstick » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:19 pm

Rex McGee wrote:Last pot is very big, good work. Surely you were up for the session?

Yes, up by $11. Roll is $160.01.

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by Red Devil » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:10 pm

I suppose this does fit in to here but I've been playing some of the freerolls on PokerStars and gotten in to 5 card draw. Came in the top 500 out of 6000 which I thought wasn't bad. Was in the top 100 for a bit as well before going all in on one hand. It doesn't seem as intense as THE. A lot less reading of people I find.

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by DML » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:32 pm

Problem with things like AK vs 10 8 is that although youre ahead, hes still got two very live cards, and is still 34% to win. It may be a bad call, but its not exceptionally bad luck when it hits.

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by Nova » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:18 pm

DML wrote:Problem with things like AK vs 10 8 is that although youre ahead, hes still got two very live cards, and is still 34% to win. It may be a bad call, but its not exceptionally bad luck when it hits.


Of course it's not, but in the perspective of then losing AA to K10 and AQ (leading at the flop against JK) to a river straight, in such a short period of time, it's exceptionally bad luck :P

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by DML » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:49 pm

Nova wrote:
DML wrote:Problem with things like AK vs 10 8 is that although youre ahead, hes still got two very live cards, and is still 34% to win. It may be a bad call, but its not exceptionally bad luck when it hits.


Of course it's not, but in the perspective of then losing AA to K10 and AQ (leading at the flop against JK) to a river straight, in such a short period of time, it's exceptionally bad luck :P


Thats misfortune, but thats not even close to 'exceptionally bad luck' in poker generally!

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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by Nova » Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:23 pm

PokerStars Game #24590141308: Hold'em No Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2009/02/04 18:19:59 GMT [2009/02/04 13:19:59 ET]
Table 'Brendelia' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: RichardNova ($6.22 in chips)
Seat 2: aziz 7777 ($7.70 in chips)
Seat 3: bigscotty ($7.19 in chips)
Seat 4: java780 ($5.17 in chips)
Seat 5: R.IsaiahG. ($7.90 in chips)
RichardNova: posts small blind $0.02
aziz 7777: posts big blind $0.05
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to RichardNova [As Ts]
bigscotty: calls $0.05
java780: calls $0.05
R.IsaiahG.: folds
RichardNova: calls $0.03
aziz 7777: raises $0.65 to $0.70
bigscotty: folds
java780: folds
RichardNova: calls $0.65
*** FLOP *** [9d Ad Ah]
RichardNova: checks
aziz 7777: bets $7 and is all-in
RichardNova: calls $5.52 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($1.48) returned to aziz 7777
*** TURN *** [9d Ad Ah] [6d]
*** RIVER *** [9d Ad Ah 6d] [Qd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
RichardNova: shows [As Ts] (three of a kind, Aces)
aziz 7777: shows [8c 8d] (a flush, Ace high)
aziz 7777 collected $11.94 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.54 | Rake $0.60
Board [9d Ad Ah 6d Qd]
Seat 1: RichardNova (small blind) showed [As Ts] and lost with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 2: aziz 7777 (big blind) showed [8c 8d] and won ($11.94) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: bigscotty folded before Flop
Seat 4: java780 folded before Flop
Seat 5: R.IsaiahG. (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)


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PostRe: ***Offical Poker Thread***
by Rex McGee » Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:46 pm

El Diablo Rojo 52 wrote:I suppose this does fit in to here but I've been playing some of the freerolls on PokerStars and gotten in to 5 card draw. Came in the top 500 out of 6000 which I thought wasn't bad. Was in the top 100 for a bit as well before going all in on one hand. It doesn't seem as intense as THE. A lot less reading of people I find.


It's still poker! Welcome :)

Draw is interesting but I don't know much strategy. I would have thought reading is so important though. In HE you can apply ranges to people's hands very easily and narrow them as play continues. In draw you know NOTHING about the likely range of their hand other than from their bet sizes. There are no community cards and I find this very hard to deal with!

Played some more SnG and made more money :D Going to play 8 more before bedtime.

Also Nova that sucks, such poor play from him.

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