Sparky wrote:Also, can I learn to play Stud to a decent standard by Sunday?
Yes. The most common problem will be people chasing draws and playing far too many hands preflop. Do a little bit of reading online and you will be fine.
DML wrote:Rex isn't the be all and end all of poker! If there was always a right answer, we'd all be winning the World Series!
Now I think you are also being unfair to me. Can I once again emphasise the fact that I said I did not disagree with either of your plays in the hands. I've not once criticised your play or Jebus' play. I think both are fine and it was just an unlucky situation. The only thing I disagreed with is your reaction and failure to accept ideas from those who are probably higher level thinkers. It's not like I am saying I am some sort of poker god who never makes an incorrect decision so I take offense to your comment. Not sure if you are aware but I am training to be a teacher and one thing that has come up lots is that the best teachers are those who are reflective, adaptive and megacognitive. I am prepared to always learn from others and dynamically change the way I do things as I experience more and more. There are simple oodles of people in the poker world who think so far behind what I even consider and I know this. I play £20NL for goodness sake. It just seems like you are portraying me as some sort of egotistical twat who tells and doens't listen. Why do you think I make videos? It isn't to "show off". I do it for two reasons. 1. To allow others to feedback on my play and as a consequence I can reflect and consider alternatives. 2. To allow others to let their game be affected my by decisions. I think most people in this thread are quite receptive to criticism and as a result develop their game but you I don't see this with. You tend to be unprepared to accept that you may have made the wrong decision and take offense. When I get told I did something wrong I prefer to try to understand why.
I also don't think other people view me in this light like you do. I think others see me as just sharing my ideas but at the end of the day I probably do have the most experience, in terms of volume for sure and I have a proven record of cash game profit. It's not me just saying "NO THIS IS WRONG", just using what I have established through experience to try and help others. Obviously I must be doing something correct because I've made in excess of £3,000 from low stakes cash games. Equally I understand that people should give equal thought to everyone's views and of course I make mistakes every single session. But don't you think it is simply natural to listen to advice of those who are doing what you want to achieve? If someone is making money at higher stakes than I am then I am obviously going to listen to everything they have to offer. In fact I am bloody thankful for anytime anyone is prepared to take to talk through my hands, everyone here included.
DML wrote:The fact that we aren't would suggest theres no right or wrong way to play hands, just better and worse ways.
Well of course this is quite deep and philosophical but until you move away from this idea then I don't think you will make much progress. Every situation has a perfect mathematical solution whether you like it or not, it's just we cannot possibly take into account all of the variables that affect the outcome of the situation. What we do in our head is attempt to model this the best we can with simplifications and assumptions in order to select what we deem the best strategy. I think you need to be prepared to take other people's ideas and subsitute them for yours where they make a better fit. Note once again that I wasn't saying this hand was played badly but there have certainly been instances where you have tried to justify quite obviously "wrong" plays and IMO been quite unreceptive.
DML wrote:The move was 'debatable', and that was is want I wanted to debate, but no - instead, yet again, its become a series of sarcastic remarks from you guys listing every single hand I can't beat etc. Its so petty!
No. ONCE again I never said anyone made a bad play. I simply pointed out that your reaction was severly OTT and unfair. I also have a problem with people stating inaccuracies. The fact is your logic was wrong and you 1. Are not prepared to accept mathematical truths 2. Won't bother to look it up yourself and understand. You felt you were ahead of lots of things in that hand but in truth you were so so far away in terms what your equity was. Download pokerstove and use it. If you have problems with it ask me and I will help you. The amount of use I get out of this resource is insane.
DML wrote:I can feel whatever I want to feel, I know my range, and no-one else does, and there is no one hundred percent way to go about things, otherwise we'd all be rich. I apologised to Jebus, and complimented and watched his performance in the final, where he was really good, making scary raises at the right times.
Your statements contradict eachother. If there isn't a "right" way then he cannot possibly make moves at the right times. Surely he can make a move that wins the hand and it still be wrong? It is just "right" in the specfic and not the general. As per the previous paragraph though, there is a 100% solved mathematical solution to every spot that yields the maximum EV. RE: Being rich. There are solutions to every situation, we are just better at solving some because they are easier. I make small amounts of money because I can make a better approximation to a situation than others. Tom Dwan makes loads of money because he can make good approximations in insanely complication situations and peel off layers I do not yet know exist. The fact that I am not a millionaire does not mean I don't think deeper than you in a poker mindset, just means I don't think deep enough or know enough relative to others to make such a profit.
DML wrote:Guess the only way I am gonna do anything is by winning a bracelet, but I'm so pissed off by this whole attitude. I nurse a million bad beat/cooler/bad play stories a week, some I don't agree with exactly in the clubs and pubs, and I'd get my head kicked in if I said 'play more'! What a stupid remark. I'll remember that the next time you moan about the way a hand was played out.
Once again with the facts and fiction. Obviously a million is an exaggeration which I won't take literally but how many hands do you really play a week? How many hands have you played in your life? I'd bet I've played more hands of HU alone than you've been dealt over all types of poker. I've probably played more hands in the last week than you have in a couple of months? How many bad beats do you think I've come up against? Do you see me moan about it and take it out on someone else? If I post a bad beat I just say what happened and that's pretty much the end of it. Sad face etc. Not only that if hands go badly I seek
advice rather than just auto assume I was correct and that's the end of it. I actually keep a LOT of the bad beats to myself. The only person you can truely ask is Aaron. Being my housemate he will confirm I can get AI with 90% equity and then just forget about it a minute later if I lost. It doesn't matter. Of course sustained bad luck is not great but I think you need to really check if you are running under EV or not. As far as I am aware you have not put anything through some software and given how ideas on pot equity perhaps things are not going quite as badly as you sometimes think? Maybe there are just leaks in your play? However insane or unfair that may sound you do need to consider it.
Above all though if you take anything from my post it's that nobody is out to get you. Nobody wants you to fail at poker. I post in this thread to boost my own knowledge by sharing experiences and to try and help others by sharing mine. If I wanted you to lose money I'd just tell you nonesense but I don't, I try to help. I'd just like to see your attitude towards poker, bankroll management, "luck" and criticism change a bit. If you
really want to get far with poker then for the final bloody time,
make a video and post hands on a regular basis. Not sure if anyone here knows about Vygotsky's theories of learning and the zone of proximal development but social interaction is essential for the learning process. Share your experiences and you will learn better. I'm sorry if you feel picked on or offended but I assure you it's nobody's intention to make you feel bad. Understandably people have different attitudes and values but I still see you as a friend and a welcome member in the thread. I'd just like you to see me as someone who wants to help rather than someone who is arrogant and offensive.
@ Jebus. Looking forward to the video then. Of course my reads won't all be correct! I expect you pulled some sneaky moves out but I was just completely run over. I like the way you adjusted though, as you said. I won't allow limping or weak raising and your aggression seemed to work as a perfect counter to this! I hope to get my video up soon though because I did think I ran on the worse side of things!