Eighthours for mod. Vote over!

If he wants it back, let him have it. Its not like we have a choice, is it?

A definite yes from me. GRCade would benefit immensely from him having Moderator status again. He was fair and he's always been the best at arguing his point clearly (and I should know, having been on the receiving end of withering judgements time and again).

I hope the forum sees sense and realises Eighthours, as a Moderator, would be a valuable addition to the Mod team.

I have no idea if this is true, but someone (who I'm sure will eventually make himself known) has PM'd me asking that if Eighty is made a mod again will he start locking threads when he's on the losing end of an argument.

Seems pretty silly to lock a thread if you're losing an argument, but I have no idea if it's true.

Sarge wrote:I have no idea if this is true, but someone (who I'm sure will eventually make himself known) has PM'd me asking that if Eighty is made a mod again will he start locking threads when he's on the losing end of an argument.

As I rarely lose arguments, it's unlikely we'd ever find out! LOLZ. (But no.)

I didn't know this poll was going to start, but it's sweet of tnny to instigate it, and I'm grateful of the support from some of you guys and the existing mods. I don't see that making me a mod will change anything other than me not "having" to go through the mods and the Staff Room if I see something really dodgy on the forum - though I will for everything except the most blatant examples of rulebreaking, as coming to a group decision among the mods is always best with such things. This kind of stuff is rare so far anyway, thanks to the great behaviour and spirit of you guys so far on GRcade, and since I'm an active contributor to the staff room and have various forumites PM'ing me about various discussion topics to do with forum rules and potential new additions to the existing forum setup as things stand, it's unlikely that anyone will notice a change.

Commander Jameson wrote:If he wants it back, let him have it. Its not like we have a choice, is it?

As with the vast majority of decisions involved in setting this place up, you do. I'll abide by the poll decision. I don't mind either way, although from the point of view of what's already in effect happening on here to do with my status, a modship is just a side-jump with a couple of extra buttons.

If consolegaming suddenly disappears if I win the poll, become suspicious.

(Actually, that could be regarded as a pre-election bribe. Forget I said it! )

I like my mods in three flavours.

The Bad Cop types: Steve, Gandalf and Tnman. I like their take no gooseberry fool attitude and their bluntness amuses me.

The Good Cop types: Stu, petercrisp. Friendly and approachable, but also sinister and probably more evil than the Bad Cops, and their bluntness amuses me.

Parksey: Parksey. Moderates in multiple paragraphs. Rides alone, like a maverick.

Eighthours would fit into the Bad Cop mould and I would therefore be a fan of his moderating style.

However, despite all that, I'm personally of the opinion that we should KEEP IT THE SAME and that we have enough mods for the moment. There doesn't seem an overwhelming need for more policing at present. Plus we have Garth who is doing a fine job as technical overseer. And of course we have the bluehats themselves, moving in the shadows and with access to the Staff Room and no doubt some input into many decisions that are made. I think Eighthours is fine as a bluehat, personally. Able to offer his input without the need for extra policing muscle that we probably don't need.

Does Eighthours actually want to be a mod though? It would be good to hear from him regarding this matter. I seem to recall he voiced vague interest in returning back on GR, or that he wouldn't turn it down if offered, I may be wrong.

Eighthours wrote:

Sarge wrote:I have no idea if this is true, but someone (who I'm sure will eventually make himself known) has PM'd me asking that if Eighty is made a mod again will he start locking threads when he's on the losing end of an argument.

As I rarely lose arguments, it's unlikely we'd ever find out! LOLZ. (But no.)

So you didn't lock any threads after losing an argument?

As I said, I have no idea if it's true (seems it happened before my time on GR) but I also have no reason to think the person who PM'd me is lying.

I would like to see him modding again, but I'm unsure if a) there's much need for another mod, and b) is there actually anything here to mod?

Eighthours wrote:

Commander Jameson wrote:If he wants it back, let him have it. Its not like we have a choice, is it?

As with the vast majority of decisions involved in setting this place up, you do. I'll abide by the poll decision. I don't mind either way, although from the point of view of what's already in effect happening on here to do with my status, a modship is just a side-jump with a couple of extra buttons.

If consolegaming suddenly disappears if I win the poll, become suspicious.

(Actually, that could be regarded as a pre-election bribe. Forget I said it! )

I was joking. Do I have to add every time I make a crap joke?



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Drumstick wrote:I would like to see him modding again, but I'm unsure if a) there's much need for another mod, and b) is there actually anything here to mod?

So far, but I see what you're getting at. Everyone has been following the rules (for the most part) so there really doesn't appear to be a need for any more mods than we have now.

Anyway, why was the poll set up in here. Very few people visit this folder, so maybe a new poll should be setup in OT? (more visible & gives more people the chance to vote as well have their say)

Drumstick wrote:I would like to see him modding again, but I'm unsure if a) there's much need for another mod, and b) is there actually anything here to mod?

I think there is need for another mod, just to bulk the team out again (losses of Pell and Kiran) plus, for example, I'm hardly ever in here on an evening (not at all on weekends) and sometimes that's when alot of the trouble (harsh, I'll call them issues instead) occurs. It's better to have a bigger mod / admin team to man the place 24/7

Sarge wrote:So you didn't lock any threads after losing an argument?

I don't recall ever doing such things, but I suppose many mod decisions are open to interpretation.

Level_7_Boss had a sig on GR in which he accused me of doing that, but in the thread concerned he got utterly raped by a variety of people in an argument. I should have sued him for that sig under the Trades Descriptions Act! According to him, I "hopelessly lost the argument and locked the topic". What actually happened was that he got obliterated in a massive row with several people (including myself), and I locked the topic once harmony was restored before it could all kick off again. I asked him a couple of times to remove the sig-of-questionable-veracity, but he refused. Kinda twattish, no?

Rather than crying to the admin about it, though, I eventually decided that him leaving it there reflected far more on him than me for anyone who knew what had happened. If that's the kind of person who's PM'ing you, sarge, when their historical recollections of events are on the same level as Japanese History Teachers, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

New forum, new ideas! Let's be egalitarian about all this. Make everybody a mod! Yes, even Protoype.

Sarge wrote:
Anyway, why was the poll set up in here. Very few people visit this folder, so maybe a new poll should be setup in OT? (more visible & gives more people the chance to vote as well have their say)

The people who visit FFR&N are the people who take an interest in how the forum works and is governed. If people choose not to come in here, then surely they forfeit any rights in decision making process?

Drunken_Master wrote: Make everybody a mod! Yes, even Protoype.

No strawberry floating way, I'd rather see the forum shut down then have that pleb as a mod.

Gandalf wrote:

Drunken_Master wrote: Make everybody a mod! Yes, even Protoype.

No strawberry floating way, I'd rather see the forum shut down then have that pleb as a mod.

Everyone but Proto then? My god that would make this place unbearable.

Eighthours can do what he wants really, Is there much need for another mod anyway? You may have lost Pell and Kiran but there isn't really much to moderate over here at the moment.

Eighthours wrote:

Sarge wrote:So you didn't lock any threads after losing an argument?

I don't recall every doing such things.

Level_7_Boss had a sig on GR in which he accused me of doing that, but in the thread concerned he got utterly raped by a variety of people in an argument. I should have sued him for that sig under the Trades Descriptions Act! According to him, I "hopelessly lost the argument and locked the topic". What actually happened was that he got obliterated in a massive row with several people (including myself), and I locked the topic once harmony was restored before it could all kick off again. I asked him a couple of times to remove the sig-of-questionable-veracity, but he refused. Kinda twattish, no?

Rather than crying to the admin about it, though, I eventually decided that him leaving it there reflected far more on him than me for anyone who knew what had happened. If that's the kind of person who's PM'ing you, sarge, when their historical recollections of events are on the same level as Japanese History Teachers, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.

You're such a bastard & perfect for a mod position.

I'll let the person who PM'd me take it further as it seems to be one persons word against the other. (I don't believe either of you swines)

Anyway, you have my Sword...

Commander Jameson wrote:

Sarge wrote:
Anyway, why was the poll set up in here. Very few people visit this folder, so maybe a new poll should be setup in OT? (more visible & gives more people the chance to vote as well have their say)

The people who visit FFR&N are the people who take an interest in how the forum works and is governed. If people choose not to come in here, then surely they forfeit any rights in decision making process?

True, but the other side of the argument is that people will only come in here when they have a problem, if they have feedback about the forum.

Plus, only 29 people have voted so far...in a poll that was set up last night. It's only fair that the poll should be moved to OT so more people can vote & have their say.

Sarge wrote:

Commander Jameson wrote:

Sarge wrote:
Anyway, why was the poll set up in here. Very few people visit this folder, so maybe a new poll should be setup in OT? (more visible & gives more people the chance to vote as well have their say)

The people who visit FFR&N are the people who take an interest in how the forum works and is governed. If people choose not to come in here, then surely they forfeit any rights in decision making process?

True, but the other side of the argument is that people will only come in here when they have a problem, if they have feedback about the forum.

Plus, only 29 people have voted so far...in a poll that was set up last night. It's only fair that the poll should be moved to OT so more people can vote & have their say.

I don't agree. I doubt that many people care about the political angle. But its your site, do what you will

I disagree with those saying there is no need for another Mod. I would relax a bit more, knowing the likes of Steve and Garth were being bolstered with the final addition of Eighthours to the Mod team - he's always got on well the guys at the top and I'm sure they'd agree he would bring a lot to the table.

And, in case you forget, we do have a legitimate vacancy for the post, with Pell's departure.

Above all else, he's just about the only forumite I can think of who has genuinely earned the right to be a Mod and he really does carry some status and respect around the boards, especially amongst the younger membership for whom a strong, consistent lead is very important.

I don't care about petty personal agendas here: if I was interviewing for this post 'Hours would be my preferred candidate, because he's best suited for the job, and I'd be typing out the offer of employment already...

Commander Jameson wrote:

Sarge wrote:

Commander Jameson wrote:

Sarge wrote:
Anyway, why was the poll set up in here. Very few people visit this folder, so maybe a new poll should be setup in OT? (more visible & gives more people the chance to vote as well have their say)

The people who visit FFR&N are the people who take an interest in how the forum works and is governed. If people choose not to come in here, then surely they forfeit any rights in decision making process?

True, but the other side of the argument is that people will only come in here when they have a problem, if they have feedback about the forum.

Plus, only 29 people have voted so far...in a poll that was set up last night. It's only fair that the poll should be moved to OT so more people can vote & have their say.

I don't agree. I doubt that many people care about the political angle. But its your site, do what you will

It's not my site, I just think as many people as possible should be involved in the voting process.

Maybe a thread in OT linking to this one just so people know what's going.